Alright folks here is episode 9. We had some difficulties during the recording which caused some weird feedback. I cleaned it up as best I could during editing and it is definitely listenable, but I wanted to give everyone a heads up.
Download a transcript of this episode
Here is the link to Llano Seco that Robb mentions in topic 4. It turns out that you can’t order from them and they only currently sell to stores in Oregon and California. For information on local grassfed meat, eggs, and dairy in your area check out EatWild.
Show Topics:
- Diary vs soy study
- Supplementing with amino acids / Too much protein?
- Soup / Omega 3 eggs
- Symmetry & Paleo Diet / Nuts / High Doses of Vit C & E / Bacon /Tinker well
- Thyroid Removal & Paleo Diet
- Low Carb / Type II Diabetes / Restless Legs
- Chia Seeds
- Periodization to improve in all physical aspects
Show Notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_9
Update:
Thanks to Miles for compiling the timeline for the show:
1. Diary vs soy study: 00:00:46
2. Supplementing with amino acids 00:12:50
b. Too much protein? 00:20:13
3. Soup 00:25:28
b. Omega 3 eggs 00:30:20
4. Symmetry & Paleo Diet 00:33:09
b. Nuts 34:12
c. High Doses of Vit C & E :37:05
d. Bacon 00:39:12
e. Tinker well: 00:41:24
5. Thyroid Removal & Paleo Diet 00:45:40
6. Low Carb / Type II Diabetes / Restless Legs 00:49:11
7. Chia Seeds 00:53:35
8. Periodization to improve in all physical aspects 00:55:10
“Protein is something that was alive and had a face and a soul. Beans and rice don’t count. Nuts and seeds don’t count.”
@Robb
Genius. Perfect.
Robb,
What do you think of liver, kidney and other organ meats? I know they’re paleo but what about toxins?
Ed
Ed-
I like them, and manage to eat all of them with the exception of kidney…just can’t get past a certain…odor from those.
HI Robb,
Really like your blog and especially these podcasts. I think you’re an exeptionally smart guy. I wanted to ask a question unrelated to this podcast, but I didn’t know where to do so. I’m very much on board with you as far as neolithic foods are concerned, especially your concerns about the damage gluten reeks on the mucosal lining of the gut. I also think the lower carb approach definitely has some clinical and historical support (Taubes). So I have two questions related to these central components to your health philosophies: The first is regarding the effect of low-carb diets on testosterone…I’ve seen a handful of references suggesting that high-protein low-carb diets actually lower testosterone levels in the blood. Any thoughts?
Also, I know there are probably many reasons to avoid beer, but is there any truth to beer containing gluten? I tried to figure this out on my own but there is much conflicting info on the web.
Mario-
Unfortunately most beer does have gluten. There are a few gluten free varieties.
Try this for restless legs
http://mangans.blogspot.com/2009/05/niacin-for-restless-legs.html
Great podcast as usual. Just one comment about the sleep deprived diabetic nurse. According Doctor Eades sometimes Ketosis will cause sleep problems. Here is a quote from one of his blog entires:
“Try the melatonin if you’re having trouble. The other thing you can do is to have a cup of herbal tea right before bedtime. And sweeten the tea with either sugar or honey. That’s right. Real sugar. A teaspoon of sugar is about 5 grams of carb, which won’t do a lot to hinder your weight loss, but it will be enough to shut down ketone production long enough to get you to sleep. And if you think a teaspoon of sugar isn’t all that much, remember, it’s the total amount circulating in your blood if you have a normal blood sugar.”
The nurse may just want to try the above instead of eating a ton of sugar. Maybe a pinch will do it.
Rob
good work guys – keep it up.
thanks for you efforts.
Hey Robb,
Have just started getting onto these… love your work!
Down here in Australia nutrition seminars etc are a bit harder to come by, so these podcasts are great… keep them coming!
Thanks, Michael
Robb, Andy or anyone else, I suppose, did anyone read this New York Times article (from November) about Vinegar and its ability to lower blood sugar (http://bit.ly/5RbblK)? I’m curious about folks thoughts.
e.g., “One study by Italian researchers showed, for example, that when healthy subjects consumed about 4 teaspoons (20 milliliters) of white vinegar as a salad dressing with a meal that included white bread with a little less than 2 ounces (50 grams) of carbohydrates, there was a 30 percent reduction in their glycemic response, or rise in blood sugar, compared with subjects who had salad with a dressing made from neutralized vinegar.”
That vinegar thing keeps popping up but i have not looked closely at it.
Thanks for giving a recommendation for a digestive aid; I have a hard-gainer friend I’ve been trying to pass tips along to, and the last time the subject came up I didn’t have anything specific to tell him about it.
Robb’s voice had a reverb all episode; other than that, another good episode.
Robb,
Any chance you could spell out that bizarre medical term for that level of something called Adictopectin.
Great stuff again. thanks !
Hey Robb,
I’m travelling this morning and thought I’d share an excellent paleo meal I discovered in the Atlanta airport, I believe the US’s busiest airport.
Moe’s in the C concourse will make you a salad (called a Close Talker) with no tortilla shell. Get it without beans and add extra chicken or steak. Add to that cucumber, cilantro, pico de gallo and some fresh jalapeño and you have quite a little meal.
Thought those that travel a lot night appreciate this.
A question in regards to the g of protein per pound of body weight and weight loss.
Is this always going to be the case? What if you had a client who was +20% bf? 30%? Should you ever eat the 1:1 using your lean body mass as a guide?
Thanks.
and keep fighting the good fight black sheep…
Brandon-
Yep, this applies even for the fatties. We ahd a client over 325lbs and his complaints of feeling like how was going to “starve on a diet” shifted to complaints of us trying to kill him with protein and veggeis!! he is now however 250lbs. it works!
Can’t overstate how valuable these are. Really. And the whole dissertation on magnesium and calcium in the beginning, loved every second of it. Not being sarcastic at all. Thanks again Robb, with your help I am slowly converting my clients, co-workers, and family to Paleo.
Hey Robb i’m a huge fan and take what you say as gospel! Anyways, just wondering what your thoughts on creatine monohydrate are? Pros/cons of it, how much is a good dose, etc. I’ve been taking 2 teaspoons a day mixed with water usually PWO in order to help with soreness issues. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you!
Joey-
I really like creatine, cheap monhydrate is the way to go. We will hit it more in the supplement podcast.
Hey Robb,
when you make homemade beef jerky how much salt do you typically use (if any) for 1 lb of meat? I got a dehyrator for my birthday and made two pounds this morning with 1 TBS of sea salt, but it is too salty for my taste.
Ian-
I really just eyeball the whole process. If you google this there are solid guidelines. Remember, I’m the no weighing and measuring guy!
Interesting info re: chia. I just finished reading “Born To Run” where chia is touted as the be-all-end-all miracle food. I was intrigued until I got to the part where the author advocates a vegetarian healthy whole grain diet despite laying down a very convincing case that humans evolved to run. Specifically, evolved to run down animals to eat them. Think I’ll stick to steak. Good read nonetheless.
My first question is about Ground Beef, I’m hesitant to buy it because it goes through a cow grinding factory.
If its from a local pasture & Grass fed is it a good thing to throw in my diet?
Huge fan of your work, I make anyone who asks about “Diet tips” go to your website and listen to your podcast. Keep up the good fight!
another question: if large amounts of vitamin c interferes w/ insulin sensitivity but helps control cortisol, how would one approach such a problem?
Hey robb my name is Tim Waldron i’m in the marine corps and was wondering if you would mind coming out and speaking to marines at the wounded warrior Bn. on Camp Pendleton. I was blown up about 6 months ago and thanks to paleo/zone and crossfit the doctors said it saved my life. We are wanting to host a seminar with mission continues please get back to me, hope to hear from you soon.
Tim-
I’d love to. I talked with Kyle Maynard about this and I’ve done some work with folks who suffer chronic pain and we have had good success. Ping me an email at the contact page and lets do it!
Robb,
I believe in eating paleolithic foods. However, some paleo foods have a high-glycemic index (i.e. bananas, dates, etc.). I realize it would be in the best interest of our health to avoid high-glycemic index foods even if they are paleo. So what are paleo foods that are also low-glycemic index: meat, veggies, berries, nuts and seeds. I also realize that it’s in our best interest to avoid dairy, but I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of eating a banana before eating some cheese from the farmers market. A banana is paleo, but it’s high in carbs and sugar, while cheese is not paleo, but is full of fat and protein…Conclusion: Eat more meat, right?…Please discuss during next podcast.
Just a suggestion… I’ve been thinking for the past couple of episodes how it would be really nice to be able to see at which time in the podcast each question is answered as I have no interest in some of these questions and really high interest in others.
Anyway, thanks for doing these, I’m learning a lot.
Hey Robb when I drop my carbs really low (under 50 grams or so) my mouth tastes weird and my tounge feels like it is firmly planted on the end of a 9 volt battery. Is there any way to avoid this unpleasant side effect?
Clay-
Likely getting into ketosis. It will improve in a few days, or you can run the carbs a little higher. Drink LOTS of water.
Robb,
Is feeling bloated a normal feeling after eliminating gluten, sugar, and dairy from the diet. She is 3 days into this and states that she is feeling more bloated than ever. Thanks Steve
Steve-
Have her try some NowFoods Super Enzymes. 2 caps per meal to start, might go as high as 4/meal. it will help till her digestion gets rolling. Make sure her veggies are thoroughly cooked.
Here’s a good link eggs, might clear up some confusion.
http://www.culinate.com/articles/features/The+eggsentials?page=0&pageSize=1
Great as always guys!
Loving the podcasts.
Favorite quotes include:
“Bad nutrition cock blocks fat loss every time”
When they get off birth control, women “get really really pregnant!”
“gig”, “kick”, “deal”, “approach”, “geek out”, “nebulous”
“You can continue that process until diabetes kills you. And then your restless legs will be done… for good.”
Since you always have to say “But if you are trying to lean out…” you should do a lean out show one week. Then you can refer people to that show when they ask if they should have whey protein shakes with juice and yams PWO while trying to get down below 20% body fat.
The Chia seed questions are coming from the Born To Run book. Great read. Don’t know where you stand on the barefoot/five fingers running thing but it’s a great book even if it isn’t in line with the paleo and crossfit style training. Those Tarahumara dudes can probably beat the Crossfit Endurance guys in an ultra marathon but I’m not sure how much they can deadlift.
Robb,
Good work as usual. I second the notion for a “Lean Out FAQ” PodCast. You could probably shut me up with all the info in that…at least for a little while.
BTW, my former trainer Saul just started a Video Blog about “Unscripted Paleo” eating. http://maddawgfitness.com/2010/01/unscripted-paleo-episode-1/
Also, you ever back to the guy that asked about taking too many fish oil caps at once? I usually take 20 at a time 2x daily. Break it up more? Andy mentioned on one of the podcasts that he takes a substantial amount at meal time.
Robb, keep the podcasts coming! Love them!
I have a question concerning diverticulitis, and I know you mentioned in a previous blog post that sufferers would benefit from a gluten-free paleo diet. Several years back my father had a rupture and every so often (and currently) experiences a “partial blockage.” I remember the docs told him not to eat stuff like seeds and nuts, but of course nothing about cutting out gut irritating foods like grains, legumes, & dairy. (I don’t beleive there is any scientific evidence proving that small bits of food like seeds get lodged and cause problems anyway). It all makes perfect sense to me. Remove the gut irritants, eat a paleo diet to prevent systematic inflammation, thereby reduce/prevent problems but I havn’t been able to get through to him to change his diet. Maybe with a little extra information from you I can finally convince him.
Also, I recall he’s blamed straining himself while “working out” and that coinciding with the flare up and original rupture. Any thoughts on that theory?
More love…PaNu Style!
http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2010/1/7/crossfit-nutrition-eats-its-young.html
40:30:30?
What crap. 40% carbs is only healthy relative to 55% if you get there by cutting sugar or wheat. That is the only sense at all by which the Zone can be considered healthy. Purely by accident. If the SAD did not have so much junk in it there would be zero advantage. If you add carbs from 25% to 40% you will gain weight and be relaitively sicker, not “have perfect eicosanoids”.
30% protein? Sweet Jesus, that’s twice what a bodybuilder needs. Who are you going to believe, Sears or Kwasniewski?
According to Sears my 10:70:20 ratio is unhealthy. He has no idea what he is talking about.
So, Crossfit affiliates and members, save your money on Sears’ “cert” and his nonsense Zone books and buy some more workout gear instead.
I love it!! The Revelation is ON BITCH!
charley-
I had not seen that. I’ve always liked Dr. Harris’ work and the fact he thinks for himself. I’t been tough to take knowing Glassman has been telling people I’m a liar and a fraud…I guess the truth does percolate to the top.
A possibly interesting note on the macro-dealio:
The only way I have found to make the Zone “work” is to dramatically reduce the carb intake (ala 42 ways to skin the Zone). The ratios at that level play out to 10-15%P, 10-15% C and 60-70%F. Looks oddly similar to Dr. Harris’ recommendations.
In case you haven’t seen it, Dr. Kurt Harris from the paleonu blog, wrote a flattering post about you today:
http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2010/1/7/crossfit-nutrition-eats-its-young.html
My favorite lines:
“Barry Sears is now the official nutrition instructor for Crossfit.
Why is that a problem?
Well, it’s their company, but I think it’s a problem because the Zone is pseudoscientific nonsense. And Barry Sears is no more than a multi-level marketer with a PhD.”
Hey Robb, if large amounts of vitamin c interferes w/ insulin sensitivity but helps control cortisol, what would you suggest for someone trying to get cortisol under control but also increase their insulin sensitivity?
http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2010/1/7/crossfit-nutrition-eats-its-young.html
Well I’ve been thinking about something for a while so here goes another question which im sure other people are wanting to know the answer to also. On a low carb paleo diet, do you run the risk of not getting enough of the vitamins/minerals/antioxidants/etc as you need? I eat pretty strict paleo and eat a ton of veggies/fruit, but if I cut back on those, arent I losing a lot of the vitamins/etc?
Robb, I’m loving the paleonu link above – I’m so glad he took the time to write that about you. 🙂
I wanted to chime in on the sleep issue comment above from Rob M to get your thoughts, but also to pass along what I’ve found in case others will benefit from it. He references a quote above regarding carb intake to help with sleep. I’ve played around with every carb combo under the sun to find my ‘sweet spot’ that will lean me out of my last 5lbs yet NOT create a decline in performance at crossfit. (all 100% Paleo)
And upon doing that, I noticed that if I get below about 60g Carbs a day, I can’t sleep longer than 6-7hrs. I wake up (exhausted still) and unable to sleep. I had a few days of quite a bit more carbs over the holidays (NOT paleo), and I slept 10hrs for 3 nights straight.
Perhaps it was actually due to calorie intake, and not Carb-specific though…As I was down near 1300 cals per day when I wasnt sleeping well. And clearly well over that when I went a little crazy w/ wine over the holidays.
I’m trying to be as low-Carb as possible, but haven’t gotten it to work yet for me. After advice at the Level 1 Cert in October, I went ‘Zone-low’ in calories (against my better judgment) and dropped to 11 blocks. I couldn’t function physically or mentally.
Anyway, sorry for the babble. Just curious if you have any thoughts on adding some carbs to last meal before bed. I might need to contact you 1-on-1 at this point.
(** I have tried melatonin and ZMA to no avail. And I have the whole complete darkness thing going for me in the bedroom!)
Robb, thanks for answering my question in the podcast!
The amino acids I was taking were glutamine, tyrosine, and tryptophan; the first for recovery and the second two for mood. I find I no longer need the tyrosine for mood by switching to unweighed, eyeballed paleo with occasional raw/grassfed dairy.
Regarding Poliquin, arginine, and growth hormone, I need to look into this more, since I think I fit that “type” according to his system; my legs are the last to lean out.
Sarah-
that leg-fat is a combination problem of growth hormone and estrogen. this is part of why Crossfit works sooo well for women (not so well for men…) is the potent growth hormone release. More on that later!
Hey Robb, looks like it’s been a rough wind up to the 09/10 transition I hope things get on the up and up soon.
I’ve got a question from a friend who’s basically eating paleo minus meat (I know, but he has his reasons) – no soy, wheat, dairy, caffeine, very little starch etc, and has had pounding headaches going on about six days now.
Says he:
“The bulk of my protein in the next month will come from nuts, seeds, beans, with a bit from yogurt (no other dairy), and a supplement to fill in any gaps. Daily protein intake will be 70-120 grams. I’m aware of the challenges of a vegetarian/vegan diet, and rather comfortable working within them.”
“At first I thought I might be experiencing caffeine withdrawal, but it’s been 6 days now and my head is pounding almost every day.
I’m fairly sure I drink enough water, at least 4 12oz glasses a day.”
Any ideas on what’s going on here?
And feel free to totally ignore this if life is crushing you right now. 😉 Good vibes from Australia dude.
Steve-
Will et this in the podcast!
Hi Robb,
I have listsened to all your Paleo episodes and I think they are great and now I need to vent about something. Unfortunately I was not able to eat my breakfast this morning. I have eaten omega-3 eggs on and off for two years. This morning my Costco omega-3 eggs tasted like fish again … foul fish. I scramble them in hopes that the yolk will be less fishy when mixed with the white of the egg. I douced them in 3 tablespoons of salsa and still could not scarf them down as they enduced my gag reflex … but I did finished all my bacon.
1. How do I get Costco to make sure their omega-3 eggs don’t taste like fish? Ha!
2. Should I eat omega-3 eggs as a paleo pancake (the cinnoman seems to eliminate the fishy taste) or should I switch back to normal eggs and supplement with fish oil (NutraSea lemon flavoured fish oil)?
Rob,
thanks for all the great info you have been pumping out. One question for you that I may have missed in the podcast, I believe there is one I still haven’t listened to. In October I did CF nutrition certification that Matt ran. One of the best learning experiences of my life, and Matt did an incredible job.
Regarding fish oil he said at the cert. and I’ve heard elsewhere for a healthy person .5g per 10lbs of bodyweight. Now I was recently turned on to the purity levels of the various fish oil tabs. Is that recommendation of .5g per 10lbs of just fish oil or of the EPA and DHA combo. The fish tabs I used to take were of a lower quality with 200mg EPA and 100mg DHA per tab. Then I recently picked up some MEGA Fish Oil EPA-DHA from vitamin shoppe, these babies are great 600 and 240 of the respective fats but they are way expensive and I’m just about out of them. Stopped by Costo yesterday and picked up their higher quality tab which was considerably cheaper than the vitamin shoppe and almost as concentrated at 410 and 274 of the respective fats. So I guess really my question is how much EPA and DHA should we be trying to take in each day? I’m currently taking 6 of these tabs a day for a total of 4.10 grams of EPA and DHA daily. I’m 180lbs so I’m a bit below the recommendation from Matt and others but those extra few pills get my stomach going at times. I try and take 9 when I can spread them out more, but typically it’s just 6 pills a day. Is that sufficient or do I need more?
what do you make of this study?
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1enfcr0fm56k1xh2/
differences of monounsaturated fats and saturated fats on insulin resistivity.
Robb,
What would be the correct levels of carnitine for fat loss ?
And what kind ? I assume L-carnitine ?
Robb–yeah, used to have lots of estrogen-dominance type problems years ago that improved gradually over several years once I went gluten-free, even before getting into CrossFit.
I’ve also habitually waited until about 30-60 minutes after the WOD or my other physical activity to eat, hoping to make the most of that GH release.
I have noticed a really significant improvement over the last two cycles by doing two things new: first, going extremely low carb/ketogenic, and then a few weeks later adding about 500mg of GLA from Evening Primrose Oil each day. I noticed the greatest improvements in the female issues when I added in the GLA. And this is when I’m already getting about half of my protein and fat from grass-fed sources and taking 10g of EPA/DHA from fish oil.
I was afraid of getting too many calories by going unweighed and unmeasured; I no longer fear this. My performance and leanness are about the same; during the same time period there have been too many variables in my activity level to address here. Actually I’ve been so busy that it is a miracle that I’ve made slow and steady progress in the gym.
Well…..The benefits for which I am the most grateful are the 90% reduction in premenstrual issues by adopting what is probably a ketogenic diet and taking loads of the GLA. The 10/5/?? plus 10g fish oil routine wasn’t enough for me….but this is why we tinker!
I’m pretty amazed at the improvement, actually. 🙂 Thanks for all your great information!
Hey Robb, awesome podcast as usual. I find myself surfing this blog several times a week, trawling the archives and rereading posts again and again. INSANE amount of useful, practical info here. I was really interested to hear your comments right at the end of the podcast re: your consult with the guy “built and wired up to look like an NFL linebacker”. I feel like I hit a similiar wall in the last 3 months of last year. I am 220lb, dead of 495, back squat 410 etc etc so genetically I am exactly the same. Built like all the dudes on my moms side of the family and they were all 6 foot +, 200lbs +, we have all been involved at a high level in rugby, “power” field events like shotput etc. As I mentioned late last year we had a LOT of WOD’s programmed that were just long slugfests. 40 minutes + of tons of bodyweight movements, running, box jumps etc etc at least 6-10 times a month. By Dec I just felt like I had gone from a strong, powerful 220lb’er to a big dude who could grind ok through long sufferfests but had lost all that power and explosiveness. Dont know if I had got fatter, but definitely not leaner. Was wondering if you could comment a bit more on the gentic influence here, possibly point me in the right directions to read up a bit more on how cortisol is increased via these long WOD’s, your take on genetics and how your training should be structured to accomodate your particular strengths etc. I am just beginning an experiment where I am cutting the long WOD’s down to a max of 2x per month and doing a programme similiar to that detailed in your “adrenal fatigue” article. Wendler 5-3-1 strength progression, some gymnastic/stuff I suck at skill practice and then a short 5-15 minutes max “CrossFit Football” style WOD 4x a week. I really feel I will be better off going this route. Have you seen guys who look to just get wicked strong and powerful also see improvements in longer WOD times? I intuitively think this may be the case. Any comments/suggestions/hints or tips on this subject would be appreciated. Thanks again from Down Under!
Darren-
Will hit this in a podcast!
Another cracker, gents.
Sort out those gremlins and we’ll all be happy little campers.
THANK YOU!
Re: Soup or whole food, there was a TV programme, British, that had a lot of interesting nutrition trials, admitidly small numbers of participants.
One trial – they took a meal and liquidized it into soup, a number of people ate this and another group ate the meal whole. The meal was veggies and meat. Then they timed each person until hunger. Interestingly the soup people all lasted longer.
Re Calcium: Another trial they did was get women who had severe PMS, did the PMS questionnaire. Then they ate a lot of dairy (in order to get higher calcium) and redid the questionnaire in 3 months ( I think) PMS was reduced.
Someone asked about PMS cravings. As well as eating paleo / zone and lowering insulin and blood sugar low, the other thing that helped me was a supplement (Sears Bone Support) which contains magnesium, calcium and vitamin D – all of which help PMS, but definitely helped me eliminate the craving side. There are other similar combination supplements – could be worth a try.
Ok something weird is happening. I ditched my cheat meal, kept up w/ a paleo dairy/gluten free diet, dropped my cals to 2000, increased protien to 180g, carbs to under 50/day and started doing MEBB 3 days/week. I have gotten stronger and have put on 5 lbs in the last 3 weeks. Not trying really to gain size but it is nice. Could it be that those long metcons had my system all f’ed up making it next to impossible to gain muscle?
Ian-
YES.
On the dairy v. soy issue, you should just say that while the study was claiming that dairy has anti inflammatory properties, really all the study revealed was that dairy sucks slightly less than soy.
I’m really looking forward to your spending an entire episode going over supplements. You have alluded to a lot of it over the past several podcasts, but it would be nice to get a complete rundown of what and why in a (well as much as you can) condensed form.
On the question of the woman who was asking about the 1g protein/lb body weight issue, is the right answer that for someone who is obese or beyond that they should consume 1g/lb ideal body weight? Figure out how much LBM they have and how much they want to add, then add in the appropriate amount of BF, then base the protein recommendation off that number? Perhaps the individual won’t want to eat that little to start, but I would think that would be the number they would settle on. Thoughts?
One subject I would love to see in the podcast is a review of things that can cause Paleo to not work. I am a prime example. Been eating pretty strict paleo for several months and didn’t lose any weight. I switched over to a very low carb diet with higher fat and that didn’t help either. I take 3-6g of fish oil a day along with 95% paleo compliant eating. Something is wrong and it can’t be my diet. What other factors can contribute to stalled fat loss ?
Kevin-
sleep, possibly some heavy metal issues (not metalica, more like mercury). Might also need to bring out the big gun and do some cal restriction.
Cool, thanks.
Started taking natural calm and my sleep is much better. I do have restless legs syndrome so I don’t know if that’s contributing. I get plenty of heavy metal. Saw Sabbath, Priest this summer and already booked my Slayer tickets. Probably too much heavy metal. I’ve heard of http://www.bioraynaturaldetox.com/ for metal detox. Not sure if there are any other good ones.
Hi Robb
Love you stuff and are tuning into the Paloe. One thing i wonder is your recommendation of coconut milk! We have for years been taught and training that coconut is the biggest evil of all due to the high levels of saturated fats. I have never my self understood how come a NATURAL product can be so nasty that we need to stay away from it. I dig the higher levels of C:12 than C:16 but is that you main reasoning?
I have been searching evidens to support it but have come short.
Thanks
Sors
Hey Robb, in regards to Kevin’s question, could it be that some people have been eating too little for too long and their metabolism isn’t rolling as it should and that’s a reason for stalled fat loss? I keep thinking of the examples u list of people going unweighed/unmeasured and seeing improvements in performance and body comp.
Also what do u consider low carb: under 150, 100, 50?
Ian-
It could be the under eating deal. this IS where a food/training log would be helpful. Low carb is pretty subjective, anything in that range works depending upon the person.
Hi Robb–
First of all–THANK YOU the podcasts!
Was at Trader Joe’s yesterday. I know grassfed beef (yum) but we were trying to figure out the different chicken breast packages. The have organic, natural, organic and free range, and just regular. I hate to admit it–we bought regular–it was 1/3 the price of the organic and natural and I was paying cash. I am looking for health benefits as much as taste– especially for a pregnant woman or child (health benefits) and taste (really don’t even LIKE chicken–have memories from my fitness competitor days of ordering plain steamed chicken and brocolli from questionable restaurants.)
So organic–natural–what do you guys buy?
Donna-
The “organic” vs. “natural” is kinda nebulous. Organic usually means a minimum of synthetic chemicals used, it might mean a cage free environment…but usually says as much. Don’t feel bad about it, buy the free range stuff when you can but it is by no means a deal-breaker.
Robb/Andy – wonderful wonderful wonderful podcast!
Two Questions I hope you consider:
1) Losing too much weight on Paleo.
I have an athlete, F/31/5’3/111. She went totally Paleo two weeks ago, the biggest change being no grains. Since that time, she’s lost 12 lbs.
I noticed the weight loss and approached her about it, worried that there was some body dysmorphia or stress involved.
She said no, the only change had been going 100% Paleo. I told her she really needs to try to eat more and she told me she’s eating every two hours to try to gain weight back, but while she’s stabilized, she’s not gaining. She’s never hungry, she’s still eating as much as she can. I haven’t gotten a food log, but told her tonight to start one and share it with me ASAP.
My first reaction is whole milk. Wondering if you have any other recommendations.
2) A Vegetarian that literally can’t stomach meat.
I have a very good friend that’s interested in the Paleo Diet, but she’s tried to eat meat in the past and either throws it up or has bad lower-GI issues. She was raised as a vegetarian, is 32, and though she has no moral issues with not eating meat, she can’t seem to keep it down.
Leaner meats (fish and chicken) that she’s tried tend to be less of a problem than fattier meats (beef, etc), but still end in the same result.
She suffers from Migraines and general ill health (frequently sick). I’m especially motivated by the story of Andy Deas’ wife, and am really looking for a way to get my friend started on Paleo.
But I don’t know a way to get her to be able to digest meat, or give her a light at the end of a puke-filled tunnel (bad imagery there…).
-Any insights or guidance?
-Any supplements that could prep her digestive system better?
-Any ideas on how to ease her into it?
-Any cases of clients going through this and coming out of it after a period of time? What kind of timeline?
Brian-
Will hit this more but podcast questiosn are liek 3 weeks back-logged. For your vegetarian start her on Nowfoods: super Enzymes with her meat containing meals. 1-2 caps, make the meals small initially. Keep me psoted and we will talk more in the podccast.
Robb,
Thanks for the fantastic podcasts and all of the great information. Two issues that I am hoping that you could address are: (1) What are the best oils for cooking with? Is Canola oil o.k.? and (2) What does is mean when certain deli meats are labelled as “Nitrite Free”? is this worth extra expense?
Thanks again.
thank you very much for sharing your very impressive wealth of knowledge and insight into health with us. i dont sync my ipod regularly so i just sat down and listened to 3 hours of your podcasting. i take what you give home with me and regurgitate it to my wife when she asks me some question about what im doing with a freezer full of dead animals and i usually dont have a good answer, other than clear results, until you explain on your podcast. brother, i cant wait till your books hit the shelf. i think ive just about got her interested in trying some form of paleo.
Jade
That dose is most likely sufficient if you are consuming fish, grass-fed beef, wild game meat, and omega-3 enriched eggs somewhat regularly. I’ve personally played with the omega-3 fatty acid doses quite a bit and haven’t seen much of a difference so I’m guessing that means my diet is adequate. I also weigh 180 lbs and have been supplementing with no more than 4 g of EPA+DHA per day.
Robb–
FWIW, here are the approximate start times for each of the topics — might be good to edit the original post with these times:
1. Diary vs soy study: 00:00:46
2. Supplementing with amino acids 00:12:50
b. Too much protein? 00:20:13
3. Soup 00:25:28
b. Omega 3 eggs 00:30:20
4. Symmetry & Paleo Diet 00:33:09
b. Nuts 34:12
c. High Doses of Vit C & E :37:05
d. Bacon 00:39:12
e. Tinker well: 00:41:24
5. Thyroid Removal & Paleo Diet 00:45:40
6. Low Carb / Type II Diabetes / Restless Legs 00:49:11
7. Chia Seeds 00:53:35
8. Periodization to improve in all physical aspects 00:55:10
You rock miles!
I have been on the diet for 4 days & still don’t feel great. The first 2 days I was very sick. I do have IBS & when I eat different I always feel strange. It’s just an odd feeling when I wake up. I never feel hungry or have cravings. How long before I feel great like my husband?
Linda-
It could be a few weeks. If your nutrition was relatively poor or if you were sick previously, it’s going to take some time. You can get through it and the results WILL be worth it.