Howdy folks!
This is an interview I did with Northern California radio personality, Nancy Weigman. The introduction is a little rough, some music and then me talking…not sure what happened with that but this is the CD made of the show by the NPR sound tech. I was on the show with Marsha Vernoga, MS, RD who happens to be…vegan. Guess what? We managed to agree on food quality, that the current food situation is a sham and if you eat meat, it should ideally be grass fed. Anyway, outside of the odd start here it’s a pretty solid interview, Nancy always does a great job on this stuff.
Nice Audio quality! Maybe they’ll divert the Public Broadcasting federal funds to your site!
that’s the advantage of doing the show in a studio. I’m always recording mine from a different city.
Nice show! I thought you came off very well.
It was irritating to me that the vegan nutritionist said she liked polyunsaturated fats for “reducing inflammation” and that the oils she liked were coconut oil and olive oil. Hello, coconut oil is saturated fat!
Not to mention that she brought out “The China Study” as an example of how casein may contribute to cancer, without mentioning that Campbell uses it to claim that all animal foods contribute to cancer.
There were a number of other issues like this, but it’s not worth getting into them all….
On the whole, it was a great interview. You were very good at finding common ground and being diplomatic about such things.
Most folks would benefit greatly from soem decreased irritation ;0)
and how about flax seed oil?
Not my favorite, poor conversion to EPA/DHA, which is the stuff we want. Prefer grass fed meat, wild-caught fish. If vegan, DHA from algae is an outstanding option.
Quinoa, it’s great bird food.
#WINNING.
brought to mind Delicious Dish on SNL.
sprouts.
good times.
Ja, anyone who calls in asking about auto-immune thyroid disease should be told to give their grains to the birds. And all other gut-irritants for that matter. It’s such a shame that if you ask the average doctor or dietician they will say that there is nothing at all wrong with grains for those with hashimoto’s.
I gave my quinoa to the food bank. It is better than starving, that’s for sure.
Just picked up your book, looking forward to reading it.
Let me know how it goes!
I’m adding that track to my gym playlist! Badass!
Keith Norris Wannabe
Robb, you did awesome on the interview. Thank you for all you do. I read your book and jumped right in. 3 weeks in and feeling fantastic. I can’t stop bragging to all my friends how great I feel.
Awesome Harvey! Glad the book is a help!
Great Talk!
Robb, can you please provide a link to the Rheumatoid Arthritis study that was a 10 out of 10?
Thanks so much!
John
This was a pilot study, as yet unpublished. I’m friends w/the researchers, but we will see it at some point.
I found it interesting how much you and the vegan. Very interesting. I guess it shows that there are some open people in the vegan camp also. Good show.
Luck for us you are such a prolific social media contributor. I am in deep learning your Paleo ways. Learning and laughing all the way through your book, even though you slam RDs on every other page. Honestly, few RDs,or MDs or humans can keep up with you. Glad you posted this. Lisa O RD
Lisa-
I love RD’s, WHEN they think and tinker. thanks BTW for the kind words.
That show was a blast, if you ever want to do one again or come on the podcast that would be fantastic!
I understand the convention of the programme was a friendly chat, and I liked it this way, but… if we take the research done by Loren Cordain, Robb and others seriously, and after reading all the books on the topic (by Robb, Loren Cordain, Mark Sisson, Gary Taubes, etc.) then I definitely have a feeling I missed or did not understand something.
Martin-
We agreed on what we agree upon. I think that is healthy, and fine. This is where people become religious about the topic, I’d put the CSU Nutritional sciences department (for the most part) in that category. They WILL NOT entertain this notion of Evolution via Natural Selection as applied to food.
Marsha is vegan, and comfortable enough in her beliefs that she (gasp!) encourages people to tinker and find their own way (Marsha if you feel like I’m mis-characterizing this please set this straight). Similarly, I’d LOVE, I mean absolutely LOVE if everyone ate John McDougals version of vegan for a month or two, then switched to Paleo. Track how they look, feel and perform, record biomarkers of health and disease. I would LOVE this because I know what the outcome would be and I’m not the least bit afraid of it. When people start saying “it’s a fad, it’s extreme, blah, blah, blah…” then we know there is more here than food, it’s fear and that fear either borders upon, or actually is, religion.
The funny thing agin, is there is a whole university department in my home town that HATES me, like would love for me to take a spill on some ice. The motivation for these warm feelings? Because I do not think “Nutritional Science” deserves the “science” moniker without a rigorous steeping in evolutionary biology. These people went out of their way to make sure I could not speak to cardiac patients at Enloe Hospital. Sounds suspiciously like the call from religious leaders to avoid books, movies and music because of (in my best Southern accent) “Saaaytannn.”
So, I’m glad I got to meet Marsha, she really cares about this topic and although we may not agree on some things I think we are both comfortable enough in our positions to offer up our opinions and then let people figure out the details.
Thus re-affirming my notion that you are indeed a fantastic person.
I sincerely appreciate your neutrality, but Chico is a small town, folks share clients, health care providers and florists…I’m very well aware of how I’m regarded. At the end of the day it does not matter what I, CSU Nutrition or really anyone says on this topic. The information is freely available, people experiment and find what works far more efficiently than reductionist science entrenched academia. I’d love to do a talk to the faculty and students, but I doubt they’d go for it.
Ether way, very grateful to have gotten to know you a little. It’s sunny right now in Chico, so that’s good.
Robb,
Great interview. Nice to see how everyone can get along.
On gluten, early in the interview you talked about your trip to Italy, and Celiac Disease. Did I understand you right that 50% of the entire population in Italy has been diagnosed with CD, or did I miss something there? That sounded shocking to me.
Steve
That’s the estimate, celiac and or gluten intolerance. All that’s happening is they are actively LOOKING for it instead of only diagnosing the sickest peeps like we do.
I just now happenned across your website and I love it! I’ve bookmarked it and I’ll be visiting on a regular basis. Thanks!
Late to the party here, but the link to the mp3 is down. Any chance of getting the audio?
I poked around and they do not have it available any longer. :0(
Thanks for looking.
Loving the podcast archives and loving the new book.