The Paleolithic Solution – Episode 35

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Back with Episode 35 for your enjoyment.

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Show Topics:

  1. Fermented Foods / Cheese
  2. Ketosis
  3. Too Much Coconut Milk?
  4. Post Workout Foods
  5. Fish Oil
  6. MMA Athlete on Paleo
  7. Intestinal Noises
  8. Mass Gain & Acne
  9. Fish Oil Calories
  10. Mass Gain

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  1. Laura
    July 6, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Looking forward to listening to this podcast, but the download link is to the pdf. :-)

    • Andy Deas
      July 6, 2010 at 7:58 am

      Laura – Please try the download again. It seems to be working fine for me.

  2. Mark Lanza
    July 6, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Thanks guys — good stuff!

  3. Laura
    July 6, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Thanks! Now I can listen over and over again.

  4. Evan C
    July 6, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Andy and Robb, it seems every time I type in this little box my mind is full of questions.

    I’ve come to realize that I never ever say thank you for all that you guys do.

    To date your advice has helped countless clients and friends achieve a better sense of fitness and helped them recapture a lot of their life that they thought they would never have again.

    Thank you Again.

  5. Adam Farrah
    July 6, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Another great one, guys! Thanks!

    Adam

  6. Amber Lewis
    July 6, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    what is the cost for attending the potomic seminar?

    thanks,
    amber
    charlotte, nc

  7. Bill
    July 6, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Selling supplements is out, but what about partnering with some labs to market a Wolf-apprved “Home Paleo Hormone Profile” kit to test cortisol, testosterone, etc.?

    • Robb Wolf
      July 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm

      Bill-
      I’d be game for that IF it told us something valuable, was accurate and a good price for folks.

  8. Amber Lewis
    July 6, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    nevermind… got it once i clicked the registration link. thanks!

  9. Bill
    July 6, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Aww man! I loves me some Kombucha! Its like a glorified carbonated vinegar drink!

  10. Squatchy
    July 6, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Be the Sasquatch Andy. Sasquatches unite! :)

    I’m honored to have my question answered in the podcast, you guys rock. Thanks for the nickname compliments (I am male btw). A good friend of mine started calling me Squatchy back in high school, it caught on and stuck ever since.

    Speaking of all this talk of mass gain. So what is a healthy way to gain some good lean mass and put on some weight without feeling like crap and uncomfortably stuffing yourself all the time, or screwing yourself up metabolically. What would you do if you wanted to gain some mass but not sacrifice health/wellbeing/feeling good in the process?

  11. Nick
    July 6, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    Robb & Andy,

    Great Podcast! Just finished listening to all of the podcasts AGAIN (for the third time) straight through 1 – 35!! Great Great Info and I absolutely love geeking out on this stuff!! Couple of Questions and one note!

    First, I can’t tell you how many times I heard Andy tease us about that damn supplement podcast :) I can’t wait to hear it when you actually have some time to sit down and prepare for it.

    Second, with regards to the now foods products.. I have been taking the straight HCl tabs 7 capsules @ 648mg of Betaine HCI at each meal and don’t even feel a mild weather change in gut. AM I GOING TO DIE??? should I quit this dosage and move to the super enzymes and just go with 5 or 6 per meal and not worry about the heat or should I stay with the strong stuff but just drop the dosage down, or do a mixture of the two capsules?
    You said you might even post a video of this process… did that ever go up and if so where could I find it.

    I have a million other questions but I think I’ll just leave it at that for now!

    Can’t wait for the book and hopefully see you at Seminar very soon! Take care guys and thanks for taking the time to read and answer our questions and still do an outstanding job with the podcast, book, and everything else you guys do!!

    • Robb Wolf
      July 7, 2010 at 6:09 pm

      Nick-
      How is your digestion overall with this intake of HCL? does your food come out looking like it went in or is it “changed”.

  12. Tane
    July 7, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Robb, Andy,
    Sharp podcast! As far as coconuts are concerned, I can actually tell you how to open one without a metal blade. (When I was taught it, I was certain that it would never, ever come in handy- I’m pleased to be wrong).
    You will need a hard stick, with a bit of heft to it. (A metal tent-pole is ideal, but then again, so is a machete) Strip the outer layer off the coconut and eyeball the brown, hairy shell that is left. At one end there will be 3 black spots in a triangular formation.
    One of them has a trace of a white mark in it. Think of that one as the “nose”. Hold the cocunut so that the “nose” is under the two “eyes”.
    Strike the coconut with the stick (hard) as if you were hitting the “head” of the coconut just above the “eyebrows”.
    This should cause the coconut to split evenly in half (top and bottom). There may be a bit of coconut water flying around. Practice makes perfect. As in all such manly, backyard endeavours, alcohol is a performance-enhancing drug up to the therapeutic dose.

  13. julianne
    July 7, 2010 at 2:20 am

    This is cool.
    A group of Maori in NZ eating like they did 150 years ago reversing diabetes, and losing weight. 60 minutes piece.
    http://www.3news.co.nz/Randells-revolution/tabid/371/articleID/164713/Default.aspx

  14. Joe
    July 7, 2010 at 4:16 am

    Great episode as always, just one quick silly question, how big are the ‘cans’ of coconut milk you’re referring to? I’d imagine there might be some difference in standard can size depending on the countries, so is a can you refer to roughly a cup, 2 cups, 1/2 cup in size?

  15. Tony
    July 7, 2010 at 5:44 am

    Andy, we need a link to a picture of this beard. I picture ZZ top everytime I hear you guys talk about it.

    Quick question Robb, I upped my food intake where I eat an whole chicken for lunch (roasted, no skin, nothing else) and since doing so, I have dropped weight and leaned out. My prior lunch was usually a slab of meat and a salad. What gives????

    No other changes I can note (Diet 100% paleo, my only cheat meals entail consumption of the deadly toxin fructose slathered with cocunut milk). Quick Bio: Crossfit 5x a week, strenght bias, 35/m, 10-12% bf(visual),

  16. Kassi
    July 7, 2010 at 6:08 am

    Hey Guys! I have (what I hope to be) a quick question:

    I take those super enzyme pills with food, works great. Sometimes I like to take Natural Calm in the evening an hour or so before bed when I’m wound up. Considering the magnesium helps you go to the bathroom in the morning and the super enzyme pills slow digestion, will taking the enzymes with dinner at around 7:30 and then taking Natural Calm at 8/8:30 totally F my system? Haven’t tried it because I’m convinced it will.

    • Robb Wolf
      July 7, 2010 at 5:59 pm

      kassi-
      Super enzymes do not slow digestion and actually improve magnesium absorption. The combo is righteous.

  17. Nicole
    July 7, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Intestinal noises: has Greg read the Eades “Protein Power”?

    I recall a long discussion about leaky gut and solutions for healing it. He should check it out- he might have a good deal of damage, and need more than just a change of diet.

    I know they had a formula they talked about that’s used to rebuild the gut lining.

  18. Clif
    July 7, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    http://www.jle.com/en/revues/bio_rech/mrh/sommaire.phtml?cle_parution=3360

    Mg article that’s interesting.

  19. Tane
    July 7, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Indeed, Robb.
    As we used to say in the service- “Rum is for medicinal purposes and you are a very sick man.”

  20. Rob
    July 7, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Robb, you often talk about fruits would have been limited and seasonal? Dude have you seen “Land of Lost” the strawberries were bigger than Andy’s melon.

  21. Ronin
    July 8, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Robb you made a comment in a recent podcast that you were down on folks using rubbers on Pull Ups.

    Why?

    How do you get folks who can’t do any PU’s going? Other scale.

    Thanks much for your great work and looking forward to the book.

    • Robb Wolf
      July 8, 2010 at 1:46 pm

      Ronin-
      I described in detail that progression and my reasoning, I believe in this comment thread.

  22. Angela
    July 9, 2010 at 3:59 am

    Ronin- Robb’s response to that is in the comment thread for episode 33.

  23. Norm
    July 9, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Hey Robb,

    I’ve been going through some of the past podcasts and have a few questions about alcohols and a supplement for you. You mentioned in the norcal margarita episode that lime juice dulls the insulin response, are there anymore combinations that give the same effect? Anyway to drink whiskey? (favourite alcoholic drink, toughest thing to give up so far)

    The supplement question is about a flavonoid called Quercetin. I ran across a study called “Quercetin transiently increases energy expenditure but persistently decreases circulating markers of inflammation in C57BL/6J mice fed a high-fat diet”, the mice are fed lard for fat intake with some less then ‘perfect’ other calorie sources – cornstarch and soybean oil. The split ends up being 20% protein, 35% carbohydrates, 45% fat…not insanely high fat. Just wondering on your thoughts about this study and taking quercetin as a supplement.

    Thanks, Norm.

  24. julianne
    July 9, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Norm,
    I’m not sure what Robb thinks about Quercetin, but my experience has always been great – for me is wards of viruses (together with an olive leaf extract). I also makes a big difference with allergies (irritated eyes). And this study shows it reduces URTI’s in cyclists doing a lot of high intensity exercise.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805089

  25. kareno
    July 9, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Just a thought for Greg (intestinal noises in Ireland) – and its a little off the nutrition side – you might look into some visceral manipulation. It’s a specialization that some Physiotherapists and Massage Therapists do. After any sort of irritation (surgery, infection, antibiotics, etc) adhesions can develop in the peritoneum (abdominal organs) and this can lead to all sorts of dysfunctions in your gut. Check it out, its helped me alot!

  26. Dallas @ Whole9
    July 9, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Andy & Robb,

    Dude(s), we are honoured to be mentioned (yet again!) on your podcast, but we cracked up at the reason for the mention… I think this might be the first time in my life that I’ve been described as “well-groomed”. Melissa pretty much always looks (and acts) well-put-together, but I’m generally a disaster. You must have caught me on a good day. Or… your standards are pretty low. Huh. I’ll try to hone my Homeless-Sasquatch-meets-Coconutty-Cult-Leader look. Be well, fellas.

  27. Paleo Pete
    July 9, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Freakin love the show. Another solid one as always.

    In regards to mass gain and cortisol. Do you have any advice for a skinny-fat ectomorph? As this Mind and Muscle article goes over below it seems that certain types of ectomorphs naturally produce more cortisol and therefore have a harder time gaining muscle and staying lean (double whammy). I certainly have the body type described and also have naturally high stress levels. I went from 6’1 170 and soft to where I am now 193 with some fat all over (I seem to distribute it evenly/about the same amount of fat when I was at 170) on Starting Strength and 5×5 programs but have ground to a halt on gains. I eat mostly red meat and vegetables with fat coming from coconut milk/oil, grass fed butter and olive oil. Carbs are under 50 a day. Any overall advice for a skinny-fat would be greatly appreciated.

    http://www.mindandmuscle.net/node/226?page=all

  28. Danny
    July 11, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Hello People

    am thinking of getting the primal blueprint cookbook has anyone from here got it and can recommend it. this will keep me going until robb’s book comes out thanks in advance

    Dan

  29. Danny
    July 11, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Cheers robb

    I should have it for tomorrow although I heard something in the book arnt 100% paleo.

    Cheers
    Dan

    • Robb Wolf
      July 12, 2010 at 9:53 am

      Danny-
      I think thee is some dairy and quinoa in there but those are easily modified.

  30. Drg'svids
    July 11, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Is Kombucha really healthy?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yp3-5UuLU4&fmt=22#t=4m4s

  31. Squatchy
    July 11, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Hey Danny,
    I can vouch for the Primal Blueprint Cookbook. A lot of great recipes, I’d definitely recommend it.

  32. I. Smith
    July 12, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Hi, Robb. I love your site, and I’ve listened to you podcast for the past couple months; I really appreciate the time you guys take to put this together.

    I have a question about the Paleo Diet and estradiol. I’m on TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) and recent blood work showed median Total Testosterone levels, lowish but in-range Free Testosterone levels, and slightly higher Estradiol levels than I would hope for. Sex Hormone Binding Globulin was slightly high but still in range. I understand that SHBG is driven down by insulin and elevating by training. Is it possible that not spiking insulin enough could result in high SHBG, leading to elevated estradiol relative to Testosterone?

    Background to put this in context:

    I am quite lean (always less than a legit 12%), and have always been this lean. I do workouts with an emphasis on anaerobic stuff (sprints, oly and powerlifts, and lately lots of work on rings). I am careful to avoid Main Page style WODs because they tend to negatively impact my development of strength and power. Diet is roughly Paleo; the main deviations are peanut butter and the fact that my meat, eggs, etc., are not grass-fed. About a year ago, blood work showed similar Total T numbers, but lower estradiol levels and somewhat higher Free T. At that time I ate a similar diet, but included more carbohydrate (mostly fruit). I definitely feel less zonked out with more veggies and less fruit in my diet, but I wonder if some insulin spike is necessary from a hormonal perspective to keep SHBG low. Could there be some truth to this, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

  33. Danny
    July 12, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Thanks for the reply guys it’s on order from amazon.

  34. Squatchy
    July 12, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    There are some recipes in the book which have optional dairy (mostly butter, also ghee, cream, sour cream, cheese). There are a couple of recipes that use wheat-free tamari. Theres one or two recipes that have green beans. I think that’s it as far as non-paleo ingredients. Most everything in it is clean straight paleo, and the few things that aren’t are optional, easily substitutable, or may not be a problem for you anyway (like green beans, butter/ghee).

  35. Susan
    July 13, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Hi Robb,

    What are your recommendations for people who have the “mouth is a vacuum” problem but should not be weighing-and-measuring? I have previously had problems with an eating disorder (bulimia and anorexia) and while I am psychologically recovered my natural hunger signal patterns are totally destroyed–I can eat a lot of food, far over maintenance, and not feel satiated. I am reluctant to switch to weighing-and-measuring lest old neuroses pop up.

    Have you encountered any clients like this who were able to address the situation successfully? Can you suggest any methods or supplementation that may aid the recovery of my body and hunger signals from prolonged abuse?

    • Robb Wolf
      July 13, 2010 at 7:45 am

      Susan-
      go slow, chew, breathe. Be mindful and enjoy your food.

  36. Ted
    July 21, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Thanks for clearing that up about how much coconut milk to eat. As you said, i also almost spontaneously combusted after drinking a can and shut the idea of ingesting coconut milk down pretty fast. Baby steps i guess.

  37. Jesse
    July 21, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Greg’s problems and history of antibiotics sounds very similar to mine. I still had stomach (diagnosed as IBS) issues that lingered (though were improved dramatically) even after I adopted a full Paleo diet. Within the last year, I decided to try taking HCL before my meals. The HCL has been life-changing! With the combination of Paleo and HCL before meals, I very rarely have stomach issues. I guess some of us just don’t make adequate stomach acid.

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