Alright so we both have headsets, the audio levels are solid, and no reverb – it is almost utopia (Food is also falling from trees in 30-30-40 ratios)! There is a little clicking because Robb kept moving his laptop around, but he is now straight that getting excited about a topic with a laptop in his lap leads to all types of funny noises. We will get this all figured out!
Here is that link to the picture of the twin brothers that Art Devany originally highlighted.
Show Topics:
- Precision Nutrition Gluten Intolerance
- Training & Genetics
- Long MetCons
- Lack of Weight Loss on Paleo
- Too Much Weight Loss on Paleo / Vegetarian Can’t Stomach Meat
- Best Oils to Cook In / Is Nitrite Free Meat Worth It?
- Vinegar
- 1 Gram Of Protein Per Pound of Bodyweight
- Diverticulitis
- Lack of Vitamins/Minerals/Antioxidants on Paleo Low Carb
- Paleo Minus Meat & Headaches
- Women, Crossfit, & Estrogen
Show Notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_13
The Paleolithic Solution – Episode 13
86 Comments
Brian-
Is this from the palmitic acid? I’ll do some looking around on this.
Kevin-
Really depends on the leanness of the meat. That can really change the total calorie content.
Donna-
How tight are you with the food? Ganglion cysts really respond well to low carb, sleep etc. I doubt if glucosamine would help that.
Brian-
I’ll do my best on that…may need to save that stuff for an advanced topics piece. You can really fudge people up with the wrong approach.
Jad-
The fructose malabsorption issue is no joke.
Robb,
On the note of Estrogen, I am currently taking oral contraceptive pills called Necon to be specific. As far as I know an oral contraceptive pills contain high estrogen. Im currently trying to lean out. I have been eating paleo from about 8 months and have had some amazing results. Feeling a lot better in the box and in clothes! What’s your take on oral contraceptive pills? How is this effecting my body? Is this going to hold me back from losing body fat? Should I stop taking it?
Hi Robb,
Love the podcast. I was listening to ep 13 today and then just stumbled across this on conditioning research: http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-exercise-are-limited-by.html
Sounds exactly like what you and Andy were talking about in reference to a poster with a big and heavy frame, wondering why he couldn’t hack deathcons… anyway…just wanted to point it out…maybe in the future you can develop a costly test to genotype people, that way you can charge people for the free advice you are giving now that people still have trouble with (i.e. How do you look/feel/perform?)…in addition, by charging people, it will only further legitimize your claims!
I’ll gladly take 5% for generating the idea…
Ari-
I like it. Now some tests that are pricey, but worthless…
Lauren-
Only you can make the choice on that but OC’s do make it tough to lean out AND offer some health concerns that are not insignificant. then again, we have 10 people in our gym pregnant…
Donna,
Re bursitis and ganglion cyst.
I had a bursitis – outer hip area a while back after doing some lunges. My amazing physiotherapist sorted it out. He found muscles imbalances and a tight illeo tibial band contributed to it. Once he’d worked on it all (4 sessions) I have never had a recurrence.
I had a really large ganglion cyst that had been on my wrist for about 10 years, gradually getting larger and more knobbly – not a nice look. After I went paleo it shrank away completely. Due to thyroid anti-bodies I am also egg and nightshade free.
Robb – I am pretty tight when it comes to cutting out pasta (cut this completely as it never made me feel good before I had even heard of the paleo diet), rice, potatoes, bread (I will take a bite or two when eating out). I have some dairy intake like the occasional latte or (whole) milk in my coffee but I’m no longer drinking glasses of milk. Primary diet is mainly meat/fish/seafood with some veggies (root veggies, peppers, eggplants, squash). Snacks are homemade paleo kits (beef/elk/venison jerky, walnuts/almonds/pistachios/pine nuts, dried cranberries/blueberries/etc. I think I’m not as strict when I eat out since I love trying new foods food and I do eat things for taste… like one piece of a maki roll, beer once in a while,… though I feel it is minimal compared to what I used to do obviously.
You did touch on sleep… does lack of sleep cause cysts/bursitis? Interesting since my ganglion cyst came back same time of year when I am busiest at work (and using the keyboard intensively at work). Perhaps crossfitting during this time with lack of sleep is contributing to bursitis in other areas?
Alright, so be wary of the liquid post workout shake while leaning out, thats all I need to hear..
So now I went back to the first podcast, and you mentioned something about glutamine PWO?? So would I take this by itself, and then wait a half hour to hour to eat a good solid meal like steak and veggies? and then all my bases are covered? I’m not spiking insulin and I have a great start to recovery? Could creatine be mixed in there to? Cant wait to hear ur view on this
Robb & Andy,
I’m really getting a ton of great stuff from the podcasts and website. It’s a really a tremendous resource… totally improved the way I train and live in a really short time.
My fiancée is really stuggling with some GI problems. She *had been* diagnosed with a hiatal hernia by naturopaths, chiropractors, and other quacks for quite some time. Yesterday she was scoped and the doctor said he couldn’t find the problem. We had hoped doing the hiatal operation would fix it, but that’s not an option now. The doctor’s solution was some pill that evidentally can cause permanent Parkinson’s disease. Joy. I guess she’s stuck with the gird diagosis for now. Stress, wine, sweets, spicy food set her off pretty bad for a few days where she experiences pressure and burning just below the sternum. Her diet is close to Paleo, probably could use more protein and less dairy (goat milk and yogurt). She uses kefir products and bio-k (acidophilus) to remedy gird symptoms, and I wonder if that’s putting a band-aid on the problem.
Have you had any experience with relief or a cure from the gird due to the Paleo diet?
I’m really sleuthing for some science and magic tricks to sway her to the dark side… My real concern about this is that the “current” food-based gird treatments all try to reduce bile production through very low-fat, no meat, carb diets… essentially quick death. I know that Dr. Cordain lists the gird as disease which the Paleo diet can heal directly, I just don’t see anyone commenting on this topic. I suspect the Paleo line has something to do with carnitine and omega-3’s.
Many, many thanks,
Thomas
Hi Robb,
In regards to estrogen detoxing, is this something beneficial for most people/women or is it pretty dependent on your estrogen levels?
Kim-
pretty dependent on the individual.
thomas-
Low carb/paleo is almost a guarantee of GERD resolution. I’d bet money on it.
Donna-
Not to turn this into an Orthorexia deal, but the amount of exposure to some foods is VERY low for certain folks. I’m a prime example of that. you did however flesh some stuff out…more work, some stress, less sleep. All of this impacts insulin sensitivity and can make a sub acute bout of inflammation (bursitis) much worse. More fish oil, Some Natural calm magnesium, vit-d3 and SLEEP will help a ton. Shore up the food to really get as much mileage from that as you can.
Keep me posted.
Robb – awesome, thanks very much for your input. I imagine once the work/stress comes back down, I’ll be able to sleep more and all this stuff will hopefully go away. In the meantime, will exercise more will power in the food dept and amp up the fish oil and sleep.
Julianne – just noticed your post. Thanks for that too. I’m starting my PT next week as prescribed. Hopefully, they’ll be able to fix my muscle imbalance, if that is something I have.
Thomas/Robb:
+1 for Paleo solving GERD. I had it BAD in my last few years in the USMC. Lots of coffee and carbs on deployment. When I got out, I would randomly throw up the heartburn was so bad.
Saw tons of docs, nothing worked.
Switched to low carb/Paleo, completely symptom free now. I have several folks at my box with the same results.
Robb – have gone through Eades/Cordain/Wiley/etc on estrogen and all I’ve come up with is “decrease insulinimia and you’ll have a better estrogen profile”, which we’ve been doing with my client for several months now.
There’s some brief discussion in “The 6 Week Cure” by Eades on proper estrogen and progesterone balance, but not a lot of specifics.
Can you point me in the right direction here as far as further research?
Re joint – bursitis, ganglion cyst.
The biggest difference for me was being really strict on cutting the grains and legumes. The Zone diet and insulin control and fish oil and vitamin D all made a big difference, but cutting grains was the icing on the cake. I have now had no joint issues for 9 months.
And – this menstrual cycle I went without painkillers for the first time in 37 years! Totally WOW!
Oh and cutting eggs which I have recently as a trial (for thyroid antibodies) on top of grains and legumes – constipation completely gone – must have had some reaction to them.
Brian-
Hmmm…Poliquin covers this material very well, not sure on peer reviewed stuff.
RE Gerd, reflux.
A nutritionist who posts on another group – for whom I have a lot of respect wrote this – I haven’t checked out these products, but she gets a lot of success for her clients with them.
‘For adults, the Natrol Acidophilus biobeads (available in the natrol section
separate from other probiotics) to be amazing for reflux. They were recommended
to me by our former Chief of Pharmacy, and i have had great results with
patients. They are also more reasonably priced than culturelle, and they are
enteric coated.
GERD/reflux I have found the combination of the ground seeds (chia or flax) and some kind of
probiotic beverage to be EXCELLENT for reflux as well.”
Julianne
Robb & Andy
Thanks for the tip on the DIM and the calcium d-glucarate. I use a little bioidentical progesterone cream for about one week out of the month and it is helpful. But no reason why I should be on this…I’m only 31…
more questions regarding estrogen issues…..
Robb: what is the dosage for the calcium d-glucarate for estrogen detox?
Can you direct me to any papers, articles about effects of the synthetic estrogen DES, prescribed to many women in the old days to prevent miscarriage? I’m curious about effects on female grandchildren of women who took this drug. I read something where the eatrogenic effects of soy were almost as bad as DES in the effect on the brain neurotransmitters. Wondering if DES is one of the causes of the so-called “genetic” depression in the women in my family. If soy can do it, I would imagine DES would be worse. Maybe this is also why weight training is like a happy pill for many women….
Sarah-
I’ll try to look that stuff up, NOT on the top of my head!
Interesting….a gut connection to estrogen dominance: anapsid.org/cnd/hormones/estrogen.html
Did I hear “light at the end of the puked filled tunnel” at the 42:00 mark? Wow. Good luck, Brian. Perhaps, a deal in which you lay out the reasoning of giving up grains and adding seafood would be something a vegetarian could also accept as an introduction to getting more protein.
Great podcast as always Andy and Robb. I’m listener #9.
re: sound quality
I miss the “we’re recording this in a truck stop bathroom” effect that was present in the early shows. So, FWIW, some of us like the rough sound quality.
Sex and alcohol -
Is there a better time than others to consummate relationships in relation to workouts? I know there is some hormonal release involved somewhere.
Does gluten free alcohol induce an insulin release? Why can’t responsible drinking be incorporated into a paleo-ish diet. And what macronutrient would you apply the calories to?
Rob-
You write it up, I’ll submit it for funding. these questions MUST be answered.
I don’t think we would be short on volunteers.
What was that little back and forth about women not being to do pull-ups and Robb saying it’s diet related and Andy disagreeing? So curious.
Brenna-
I think that was an under-eating commentary. We know when girls are skipping meals due to shoddy performance in the gym.
Robb, Darren from Q3 here. Quick “gee whiz” update
In last 2 months
Power Clean PR by 33lb
Push Jerk PR by 20lb
HSPU from basically none to sets of 2-3 at a time
KILLING the power oriented stuff at the gym (top time in the short power oriented stuff most days), have done a few long metcons (2-3 in the past 2-3 months) and to be honest, I dont think I have lost anything in these, if I have its 4-5%. Not a big difference at all.
Take away for me? EXECUTE ON YOUR DNA!
Darren
Daren-
LEGIT!! Keep me posted.