We recorded this shortly after the Lou Mars event so please forgive us for being extra goofy this week. We are very sleep deprived and heavily caffeinated, but wanted to make sure that we got the next episode out for folks. We are still working on the reverb issue so please bear with us while we iron that.
This is also the episode where Robb reminds us that milk is simply filtered cow’s blood (great mental image). I was tempted to post some video of the Masaai tribe, but I will let folks decide on their own if they want to use google to track that down.
Here is a recent post from the Paleo Diet blog discussing Lysozyme.
Show Topics:
- Lou Mars Discussion
- Preworkout Nutrition Discussion
- Fish Oil Calculation
- Digestive Enzymes
- Heart Burn & Fish Oil
- Babies & Neolithic Foods
- Green Beans & Paleo Diet
- Beef Protein Isolate
- Fish Oil & Loose Stools
- Allergy Shots
- Eating Different Macronutrients Together
- Eggs & Lysozyme
- Woman & Bulking Up
- How Low Should Bodyfat Be Before Bulking?
Show Notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_12
The Paleolithic Solution – Episode 12
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Hey guys,
Greetings from Melbourne Australia.
Absolutley loving the podcasts. I have two questions in a previous podxast (forget the number) you mentioned the paleo margarita and the properties of acid in limes. Just wondering if the same applies to lemons? Also I recently found a tub of duck fat @ the local supermarket stating that it is high in omega 3 just wondering what your thoughts are on this in regards to omega 3 to omega 6 ratio as a source of fat? Otherwise keep up the great work.
Cheers Grizz
Loving all the podcasts!
Any issue with the amount of added vitamin e in fish oil tablets?
I notice mine contain 3mg in each capsule. I’m generally taking up to 6 per day.
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Steve
Great comments on episode 11 re: fish oil. And I thought I was the only freak that swigged Carlson’s Fish oil.
As for the feedback issue, it might be something as simple as mic placement/distance, room variables, the type of mic and headphones you are using. Keep experimenting.
Robb,
What’s your take on “MILA” (http://www.omgomega3.com/).
I see it’s one of the sponsors for the 2010 games, and the information on their website makes it look like the bee’s knees (gluten-free, non-GMO, sugar-free and high in antioxidants, fiber and protein, ratio of 3:1 (3 Omega 3 to 1 Omega 6)).
***and thanks for the podcasts, love ‘em***
Any comments on COD LIVER OIL ( emulsified)
vs FISH OIL – TWIN LABS claims that their
COD LIVER OIL is heavy metal free – is FISH OIL
purer or more concentrated ??? is Carlson brand considered
a TOP BRAND ? the INTAKE of OMEGA 3 for most
Americans is very very very low -
I am 6 ft 170lb paleo guy, 65 years of age
would love to gain useful muscle but can not do
HEAVY lifting ( squats or deadlifts ) Have a few bad
disks ( degenerated ) – So I am trying to UP my protein
and FAT blocks – but dont expect to GAIN lean mass
with this SPINE , at this AGE !
Any coments ??? Josh near Reno NV age 65
Josh- Hard as hell to get mercury INTO fish oil…kind of a goofy label statement at this point IMO>
Jay-
We covered MILA in a podcast.
Steve-
Should not be a problem. Just prevents oxidation of the fish oil.
Peter- lemons are just as good as lime. No idea on that duck fat but I’d be surprised if it is not grain fed…which would still make the n-3/n-6 screwy. Sounds damn yummy though!
Robb — Have you heard of the Bio-Set testing that some Holistic Drs use to detect food allergies, as well as reactions to other forms of stress? My acupuncturist has used it on me for a while. Initially (2 yrs ago) I was showing reactive to 96 basic foods – I had some severe gut irritation. Via bio-set treatments and various enzymes, I’m now only showing a reaction to sugars, gluten, corn and occasionally some other things show up. Just wondering if I could still be reacting to something like eggs or nuts, even if it’s not showing up on here.
thx! Kari
Kari- new to me. I’ll need to look into that.
For your next podcast –
You’ve touched on the effects of Paleo on Insulin-dependent diabetics. How about a few minutes for non-insulin dependent diabetics ? I’m curious as to how the insulin response will show up in this population with a strict paleo, modified paleo (meaning strategic inclusion of legumes and diary), especially since many have EXCESS insulin that just isn’t doing its job. Thanks.
I’ve enjoyed listening to you and Andy. Maybe one day you’ll move your ‘cast to Blog Talk Radio and maybe take live questions???
Your podcasts rule.They convinced me to go all paleo,and now give me the morale boosters to stick with it.
Presently 47 yrs. old,6 ft, 165.@ years Crossfit prior,smoked on the met-con but soon realized I was not not strong.Took almost 1 1/2 years of work since to put on 15 lbs of muscle from 155 to 170,now after a month of Paleo I’m at 165
Have no immune issues or leaky gut that I know of,just doing it for performance.Few questions built up from listening to all the podcasts.
In winter (citrus months) love to press my own OJ and stir in a couple organic raw organic eggs….OK? or too much acid & fructose?So missing my oatmeal please let me keep that drink.
You mentioned one ineavitably loses strength when they lose weight which seems kind of logical.On other hand you said Jolie and that woman from your gym had dramatic strength gains from going Paleo…. is that because they were already so leaned out that the Paleo kool-aid(benifits) kicked in immeadiatley?
You and Andy kind of scoffed at women stereotypically wanting to lose weight & men wanting to gain.Yet it seems you’re no different after mentioning your own dairy bulk… is that a legit cycle ? Cut on Paleo and then bulk w/dairy.Can you share your experience with us?
Do you think one can bulk on an O- lift program,or is it preferable w/ a Wendell 5 3 1 powerlifting program for max gains.Maybe I could just do the Oly moves as assists to keep those skills sharp meanwhile?
Thank you
Sincerley,James
PS Performance wise I’ve got a 5 min. Fran,Cindy 24,closing in on 2x BW dead & a 1x BW snatch.
Hey Guys,
Another great show. I would just like to thank Fran for saying I am young at 37 yo I sure don’t feel that young some days.
Andy, not being able to find pants is a real problem, I am still trying traumatized from going to buy a pair of Wranglers (don’t ask why) when I was 18 and not being able to get them up past my knees. Maybe your friend and I should start a support group.
On a serious note what would you recommend post workout to keep the mass down. I usually workout around 4 pm then don’t eat until 7 or 7:30 pm in an effort to lean out. However, am I shooting myself in the foot, should I be eating something to keep the GH down? Thanks again for all the hard work.
Scott
Hi i am in Australia. Want to thank Robb for all the info he passes out its awesome stuff helped me out a lot with my health and fitness. Question on Green Drink i use Core Greens from Synergy am I wasting my time and money adding it to water? Core drinks has no algae in it ingredients are clean from what I can tell.
I’m catching up on the podcast and I note you guys speculating about the assertion that insulin is anorexigenic. I remember stumbling across this somewhere (I don’t think there was a specific primary source cite — it seems like it might be old news in the quarters that study brain insulin sensitivity) and it makes good intuitive sense to me in that when my insulin level was high thanks to levonorgestrel I found myself spontaneously fasting. My gut feeling is that this is not something the average insulin resistant/hyperinsulinemic person would experience without some perturbation of the system, but I could be wrong. Then again it sounds like this effect is seen in males but not females (at least in studies with nasal insulin squirts and such) so I could be trying to read my experience into unrelated physiology. Who knows.
Hey Rob/Andy,
Love the work, keep it up.
Can you at some stage look at covering added ingredients in food in an upcoming podcast.
By this, I mean, the added vegetable emulsifiers,water stabilisers, preservatives etc.
Some of it is very hard to avoid, for instance, I can get a large can of coconut cream for under a dollar, but it has something called water stabiliser 446 – which when googled up is supposed to be non toxic and non allergenic, but then again, whole grain bread and 48hr juice detoxes are good for me according to Dr Oz….
Robb — Here’s a website that explains it. There’s a whole book too. If I had found you 3 years ago, I might not have needed it. But, my practitioner is amazing at finding not just food allergies, but also cortisol and other hormonal imbalances. He’s also done wonders with people I’ve sent to him for various illnesses and stresses.
http://www.bioset.net/bioset_system.htm
thx again for everything!
oh – after hearing you talk about Polquin now and then, I searched around about the biosignature method. what’s the best way for me to learn more about that (I can’t afford $1000 for his seminars)? I am for sure still storing the last 5# fat in triceps and thighs and am sure it’s hormonally driven…
Kari
Robb,
Thank you for answering my Lecitin/Green Bean question. I’m a bit embarrassed to have confuse the two.
For me, your fish oil supplement guidance comes out to 13-26g fish oil per day, which using Carlson is 16.25 tsp/day or $3.63 per day.
Is your dosage based on obtaining a 1:1 omega-3:omega-6 ratio? I track what I eat, and eat a lot of fish and grass-fed meat, so I might want to track it manually so I don’t overdo it.
Hey robb, Huge fan of the podcast! Keep up the good work.
Q: What is your thougts about colon cleaning? I know it sounds weird but if it will help uptake better wouldn’t I want to do it?
I am 31 and 5 11″ and 180 @ 9% . no issues , been paleo for 6 weeks.
thanks again
Greg
Rob I listened to a Podcast from University of Michigan “Saturday Morning Physics” The date was November 2 2009 and the lector was John D Smith.
It raises some questions and I believe you can provide some answers?
I enjoy your podcast greatly and I am have been catching up on all the od podcast and I am now curent. I guest that makes me number 8?
I do look feel and preform better only after 3 weeks, about 80 percent compiant.
Steve-
You may not need much fish oil if the protein sources are dialed.
kari-
I’ll check that out. You could find a registered Biosignature practitioner and do some consulting. That will also run into some money…
Kim-
The insulin/anorexic thing does not make sense to me. Not saying it does not happen, just damn squirly. A quick search implicates levonorgestrel a problem in PCOS and other hyper-insulinemic situations. THAT makes sense.
SOT!
I could not download the ingredients list for that product. I suspect it;s fine, but have no reall way of knowing at this point. Thanks for the kind words!
Scott-
If you have that much problem with mass gain we WILL be stopping by to remove your pituitary gland. It will not hurt…well, not once we are done!
if you had to eat only 6 vegetables for the rest of your life, what would they be? in rough order.
Just give me a plenty of paleo liquor and I am sure I won’t feel a thing. Good thing I didn’t eat this way when I was 18 and all hormoned up I might be a freak now…wait a minute.
Robb, I can’t speak to the PCOS situation since I really don’t know much about that condition, but levonorgestrel raises insulin production and eventually insulin resistance even in the slender, healthy young test subjects who typically turn up in these kinds of things, particularly in the second postprandial phase of insulin release. It frustrates me to no end that the clinicians handing these things out really don’t seem to be aware of this.
Oh, btw, one of the papers I found investigating insulin as an anorexigenic agent was actually proposing using it *as an intervention for obese children*. I was just dumbfounded by that. Talk about being myopic in the extreme: sure it might potentially cause the children to eat slightly less (in the short term, I suspect, and only with a good program of parental education and support at that), but at what cost? Craziness.
Ben-
HMMM…
1-asparagus. I really like it, and it makes my pee stink. BONUS!
2-Artichokes
3-Tomatoes (I know Garrett, it’s a night shade…but I LOVE THEM).
4-Carrots. Afer Melissa Urban Wrote Carrot Train To Crazy Town…pure bliss.
5-Brussel sprouts. If I can cover them in either bacon or butter.
6-This is a tough one but I’d say cabbage because I LOVE saurkraut.
7-If I had on more to pic, it would be onions.
have you seen the bars that OPT has made? are they worth the $4/bar?
Ben-
I actually just received a package of them last night! I will tear into them and tell you how I like them.
Hey, Robb – great job on the podcasting! Question about eggs, nightshades, and autoimmune issues…could egg white protein and nightshade veggies be causing me to breakout? I am full-on paleo, have cut out the whey protein, and am wondering why I often look like I’m just hitting puberty (okay, it’s not that bad, but blemish-free skin would be nice for a single 30 year-old:). Any input?
Jessica-
Some females need to add a little GLA to the mix to balance things. Try ~5mg/day for a few weeks. Drop the GLA in the 3rd week of your cycle.
I might be completely off here, but do you really mean 5 (five) mg? The lowest I have found per capsule is 240 mg…
jessica-
Double check that and see how much GLA specifically it has. Should be able to find a 5-15mg capsule.
Hi Robb,
GLA in third week of your cycle – why is it best to drop it? What’s the science bit I need to understand?
I ask because the last few months I have been taking fish oil with a little GLA added and notice even though I feel really good, the week before menstruation I have started getting more fluid retention and bloating which I didn’t used to get.
No other PMS symptoms though.
Sure thing – thanks!
Okay, I HATE to be so pesky, but the lowest I could find is a Nordic Naturals Omega Junior 3.6.9 with 33mg GLA – what do you think?
Jess-
give that a shot. If you know a solid naturopath or MD who knows this stuff they can help you get that dialed. It may bee a case where you need to take it alternating days. Remember, 3rd week of your cycle, skip it all-together! If this is the issue the acne should clear up.
I forget now, but you ARE 100% grain, dairy free, yes? Not much sugar? I seem to remember that being the case.
Julianne-
the GLA affects inflammation and dropping it in the 3rd week mitigates problems.
Robb – thanks for the rapid response! Yes, 100% grain free, dairy free, and only a cup or so of berries a day as my sugar. I’ll check out some naturopaths and see if I can find someone reputable. The only issue I think I’ll have with taking this supplement is knowing when to drop – I have PCOS with amennoreah (apparently unrelated to insulin resistance – blood work came back well, etc.), so I might have to check in with a good psychic, as well:) Thanks, again.
Ok, also add 150 mcg of iodine per day. I’d bet your T3 is low normal and you would run better at mid-high. Keep me posted.
I did find a liquid 3.6.9 with 13mg/Tbsp, so I’ll just take half of that. As far as the iodine, I’ve been taking that since December (via kelp tablet)…no noticeable changes:-(
Jessica-
most of the 369 products are a waste IMO. Once you are don with that us fish oil and GLA specifically.
Oh, shiz…will do. Honestly, though, I’ve spent a good chunk of time on the web looking for a GLA that low (that’s not a combined 3.6.9) and the lowest I’ve found is 125. Do you think that would be harmful?
Jessica-
Here is one that is 45mg:
http://www.puritan.com/evening-primrose-oil-gla-050/evening-primrose-oil-500-mg-003632?NewPage=1
You’re awesome…thank you.
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