We have officially hit the one year milestone. Thank you to everyone for all the support over the past year. We love doing the podcast and are glad that everyone seems to be enjoying it.
Download a transcript of Episode 52
Show Topics:
- Ultima
- Seeds
- Breast Feeding Alternatives
- Thyroid Removal
- Copper IUD Birth Control
- Frequent Burping
- Prolactin & Cabergoline
- Paleo & Gall Bladder Removal / Why are Woman Told To Eat Grains
- Lost Desire to Train
- BCAA’s
- Testosterone Usage
- Protein Recommendations
- Margarita Recipe
Show Notes – The_Paleo_Solution_Episode_52
Download episode here.
Just to be absolutely clear – the common thread between those suffering from the brain tumors were that they were conceived despite the presence of the copper IUD? Not after the IUD was removed? That just opened up a whole new bag of issues (mostly joking). I was assured by the gyn that the CIUD was extremely effective in preventing pregnancy so hearing that answer confused me a bit. I went for the CIUD over the Mirena (localized vs. systemic hormones – is there a difference?) because I wanted zero-hormone BC.
I don’t want to give any future children a brain tumor just because I wanted to shed more body fat. I assume I understood correctly and just pray the CIUD is better now than then, and these issues were due to the presence of the IUD at time of conception. (hey, prayer as birth control! Maybe I’ve got something here!)Thanks for the podcast.
Liza-
Yes, but this was 1980’s and was a theory. I have not followed it to see if anything solid came of that idea.
So, Im starting to think I may have been banned from the blog? Ive had 2 unanswered posts and 1 missing, maybe because I posted from a Dunkin Dounuts?
Anywho Im going to repost just in case.
Im having a heck of a time with one of my clients. She is an older lady, early 60’s. Since December she says shes gained about 14lbs. We have been training together for about 4 months. Occasionally she makes progress but for the most part I cannot strip weight off of her. And I mean at all. Its crazy. She eats roughly pretty paleo:
[ A 1/2 cup yogurt before workout.
Bfast: 3 egg whites and turkey slices – handful of nuts
Lunch: salad – 1/2 chicken breast – vinegar dressing methinks- olive oil
Dinner: Veggies – Salmon patty – sometimes an apple.]
She is one of those amazing clients who eats the same damn thing every day and has no problem doing so. If she has a “cheat” its in a very small quantity and honestly I dont think it causes a problem. Occasionally she will have some type of flavored water, I warned her about this and she has made a serious effort to switch to regular water. But still in the amount I cant really see this being the issue.
Her energy levels are pretty low and she is basically tired all of the time. Her sleep, in my opinion sucks mainly because she doesnt get enough of it. Roughly 4-5-6 hours a night. Im 25 and this kills me when I get 6hrs so I dont know what its doing for her but Ive also heard (mainly from older people) the older you get the less sleep you need.
Exercise is pretty solid, mainly I have her doing some MEBB. She was getting horrible headaches during the sessions so we had to dial way back and slow efforts down.
I think part of the problem and the reason for my reaching out to you is that she had a nutritionist a while back and between that quack and her dr she was thrown on a list of vitamins and medications. They are listed below. I feel that the issue lies outside of diet and nutrition and may be hormonal and or metabolic. Something in the system is slowing or failing. I dont know if youve caught Poliquins new blurb but he has stated that high pec, quad, hips/ love handles and especially high tri fat storage is a aromatization issue with T to E. To high in estrogen cause storage in these areas depending on male or female. In all honesty I believe he actually may be right. If you could give this a look over and throw any opinion at me I would be greatful. How could I not listen to a New York Best Seller?
Thank so much
Medications include but are not limited to:
Medications:
Levothyroxine 100 mcg
Omeprazole DR 20 mg
Diclofenac SOD EC 75 mg
Nabumetone 500mg
Fexofenadine
– SynerQ
– Hydro-Zyme
– Ala-TR (Biotin 450mcg + Alpha-Lipoic Acid 600mg)
– Meda-Stim (Vit B1-2mg, Vit B2– 2mg, Niacin 20mg, B6 2.4mg, Iodine 67 mcg, Zinc 4mg, Selenium 30 mcg, L-Aspartic Acid 175mg, L-Glutamic Acid 100mg, L-Glutathione 20mg, L-Tyrosine 100mg, Rubidium 10mcg, Salvia Officinalis 15mg, Parietaria diffusa 20mg.
– D-Power
– Vitamin D- 5000 IU
I believe all she still takes is the Levothyroxine and if my information is correct (she has a very strong accent) she just got bumped up from 100mcg to 150mcg. She is also taking Amox TR-K 875-125mg.
Hugs!
cut out the extra fat and dairy.
This woman has a significant thyroid problem that is not being dealt with effectively.
She is also not digesting her food properly–this is a given based on the fact she is on the omeprazole.
She’s likely in the early stages of what is often referred to as fibromyalgia.
A good book for her and possibly you to read is “Why do I still have thyroid symptoms, when my lab tests are normal?” by Datis Kharrazian. She will likely see herself in a ton of the examples in there.
If she doesn’t sleep better+more and/or manage her stress better than she currently is, nothing much will improve no matter what any of you do (trainer, quack nutritionist, or physician).
Thanks Doc!
Do paleo nutritionists count as quack nutritionists?? 😉
Thank you so much for the reply and sorry about the long delay in getting back to you.
This all makes damn perfect sense to me.
Im under the impression that step one would be to get her gut fixed so she can maybe get off omeprazole. But there are a variety of ways to try and repair gut health. In your EO do you have any suggestions.
Amazing you say fibro because she has been convinced for sometime now that she in fact has that.
Is there any correct treatment for the thyroid so that it will start working again? or are the answers in that book?
Im going to light a fire under her about the sleep and stress and have been delicately trying for the past 2 months.
I also have referred her to your website and she probably will try to contact you. If you hear from someone with a thick Columbine accent, its not the cartel.
Thanks so much for your help!
Check out the Thyroid book. Amazing.
Walgreens is offering free a1c testing on Friday and Saturday nov. 12 and 13. I saw this in chicago but it might be nationwide. What should I be looking for as far as values? Any concerns about food or drink before the test? And is there any bs that I can anticipate having to dispel from the testers?
Get the book!!!
Happy Anniversary Guys. Thanks for all the hard work.
Well, we love listening to it so you better keep it up for another year 🙂
Thanks for all the effort you put into it!
Hi Robb,
Chia seeds seem to have a favorable 3:1 omega-3 to omega-6, as well as many other health benefits. Are there unhealthy properties in Chia seeds that I should be aware of. Honestly, though, I’m no Chia addict, and it seems difficult to overdo it with them.
Thanks.
PS. Andy, I bought two copies of the book and will be buying more to pass around to other family members.
they are short chain-3&6. Not a fan other than to use then for a bit of variety.
Not sure who scobyone is but he didn’t create the intro music – I did! Psyched that you guys used it though 🙂 If you record yourselves saying “Paleo Solution” and your names slowly, I can make a better version for you. You guys speak too fast in the podcast for good sampling.
Sorry dude!! We have been sitting on that for a while, dig it!
Jeff – sorry for the confusion – I will get that recorded for you this week!
Hey Robb,
Just wondering what you believe the best program for “being prepared for the unknown and unknowable” as they say, would be? Obviously there’s CrossFit in it’s current incarnation, and I know you’re a fan of CrossFit Football over that. I’ve also wondered about Christopher Sommer’s Gymnastic WODs. Is there anything else that would be better than those listed I don’t know of? My fitness goals have changed a little and I’m just trying to figure out the best program to get me as prepared as one can be for anything and everything. Thanks Robb.
Jay-
This is a great show topic, we will hit this. check out MovNat.com for another perspective on this.
I would really dig this.
Thanks Robb, I look forward to it. In the meantime I’ll check out MovNat.
Not that you asked me, but I’ll weigh in on this.
My first comment would be that you are not ready for the unknown and unknowable if you are overtrained and/or hurt all the time.
Second point is that it depends on where you are at. IMO the first thing anyone should do is get a decent strength base. If you don’t have a 0.75 BW press, and a 1.5 BW deadlift going then stop whatever you are doing and get that first.
IMO CrossFit is an intermediate to advanced program. It’s a waste of time to do it as a novice – scaled or not. Even so, I’d only do a “WOD” once a week and hit it hard. You can work on strength, power, and skills the rest of the time.
Lastly, I prefer bar muscle-ups to ring MU’s. Way more functional IMO.
Agreed.
I’m sorry, but what’s the name of the probiotic you mentioned? Or put differently what requirements should probiotic supp meat in order to be effective from your point of view?
Same question actually about enzymes. I’ve googled NOW Enzymes. It had slightly different nutrition info than enzymes in my Animal Pak. Does it mean it’s less effective or it doesn’t really matter what exactly is inside?
jarrowdophylis, but I’d just mix it up on the probiotics. Use a variety of brands.
Same goes approach to enzymes?
I think the probiotic question referred to the lady with the missing gall bladder.
My wife is missing hers too. The two other supplements you recommended I can’t make heads or tails of:
“nalfood with protease and lipase”
and
“oxfile to emulsify fats”
Help!
Nowfoods Super enzymes
Oxbile
jarrowdophylis contains milk and soy.
My nutrition instructors recommend Dr. Ohira’s brand probiotics as well- there are 2 kinds- one is a “professional formula” I think you need to get through a “professional” but there’s a store-level one that is probably readily available. Apparently this one gets pretty good results with most of their clients. Just my .02.
http://drohhiraprobiotics.com/
Hello,
I’m trying to help my aunt who is suffering from gall bladder stones and on the verge of getting her gall bladder removed.
I will put her on a low-moderate carb paleo diet that’ll emphasize bone broth and tinker with the removal of autoimmune offending paleo foods.
I’m going to recommend a probiotic and super enzymes. The Dr. Ohhira probiotic has fermented soy. Still recommend it? My personal favorite is New Chapter’s probiotic.
http://drohhiraprobiotics.com/
thanks,
Henry
so i had been going super low carb for about 5 weeks where my cheat day would consist of a couple pieces of fruit maybe 2x/week. was working out 3-4x/week. pretty much meat veggies and eggs was my diet (and coffee w/ cream:). So I was at a location where they had halloween candy and i, thought to myself, F-it, Im going for it. So i had probably ten pieces of your standard garbage of the world halloween size (small) candy bars and roughly 1/3 of a coca-cola. then i almost died i think. i went pale, i couldnt even handle sitting down, i had to go outside, where it was raining, and lay down for about ten minutes. vision was going away, breathing was hard. calling 911 entered my thoughts. then was able to get up and throw up, went and ate some meat and felt better. could you talk a bit about what was going on metabolically and perhaps the dangers of going super low carb and then eating a deadly amount of sugar. thanks. i have listened to all 52 of your episodes.
Ben,
We must be twins or someting. I’ve lived this experience too many times now. Super strict, low-fruit, low carb, Whole30 style Paleo, for 3-4 weeks, and then a little refined sugar throws me off the rails and I experience all of the mental/physical trauma you mention, it feels like an anxiety attack.
Worse, it gets worse, I recover for a few hours, or overnight, and then binge on an even higher volume of the sugary stuff. Sometimes it takes 2-3 days of bender-like behavior before it finally breaks, like a fever.
Funny, I’m pretty much a non-drinker, and a few drinks never prompts the overwhelming need to have more, But with sugar, I’m like Nick Cage in “Leaving Las Vegas.”
Robb, would love to hear your thoughts…
It’s like crack!
Robb and Andy,
Thanks so much for answering my questions. It truly gave me insight on re-evaluating my goals both as a coach and athlete. I am taking your advice and stepping away from training for the month of November. I need balance and I am using November to re-tool and re-charge. Thanks again.
Best,
Barry
Hey Robb,
Interesting discussion of steroids. I think I’m sort of in your camp in that I like the idea of being all natural from a bragging right perspective. Random question, I’d heard in an interview with Art DeVany that he doesn’t believe that steroids can improve baseball bat speed because they only help build slow twitch and a swing engages the fast twitch fibers. In other words, steroids were not responsible for the home run boom in baseball. I do think that it’s safe to say that the effect of steroids is overblown, but would you agree that bat speed is not improved, and thus you don’t have the edge of being able to wait a couple milliseconds longer before reacting?
I love Art and his whole cantankerous nature, but he is of base on many, many things. He’d better let all the sprinters, OL’rs and other ultra-power oriented athletes know anabolics only work the ST fibers…
Well you of all people know that just because people believe something’s true doesn’t necessarily make it so. There’s a placebo effect to take into account, for example. I’d be interested in seeing research in either direction.
At the very least, I’m inclined to believe that the surge in homeruns in baseball due to steroids is massively overblown. I suspect that there is some slightly statistically significant effect, but certainly not enough to explain a 73 homerun season on its own.
Certainly entitled to that but I tend to er on the “better living through chemistry” side of things. People would not engage in an illegal, potentially career ending habit if it did not provide some pretty tangible rewards.
Congratulations! Looking forward to many more years.
Congrats on your anniversary, boys ;)! Finished reading the book and listened to almost half of the podcasts (in about 2 weeks). Am very happy with all the info and have changed diet completely from almost vegan to full paleo. Still going strong on my quest to save my gallbladder and dissolve the gallstone. Aside from that; I read some stuff online about the research by prof. Cynthia Kenyon: her roundworms doubled their life span if they never ate carbohydrates (well, 20 days to 40 days, but still impressive). And lots more reasearch with genes, cancer and IGF, all in the worms. As far as I can see her research (on worms) parallels yours (in scientific literature). Very interested to hear what you make of her work.
Kind regards and I look forward to the next podcast!
Thanks for commenting in podcast 54!
Hey guys… Love the podcast, but a bit of a correction: The quote mentioned toward the end of this episode…
“paleo is a logical framework applied to modern humans, not a historical reenactment.”
…comes from an update I made on Twitter a while ago. Robb actually retweeted it shortly after I posted it. Love it! I’m flattered that you guys appreciated it!
Slainte,
Andrew
Thanks Andrew, it’s spot on.
Robb,
met you in South Brooklyn last year–thanks so much for these podcasts, they are so informative. I think you ran the question about the removed thyroid in episode 48 already, but the repeat prompted me to write with my question. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s 15 years ago as a senior in college. I’ve been on Synthroid (generic version) since then, with my levels being adjusted every six-12 months as my TSH levels have changed.
Here’s the thing: I’ve never had a symptom of low thyroid. Ever. No weight gain, no sluggishness, no dry skin, no hair falling out, nada. So this spring in conjunction with a 30-day paleo challenge I stopped the synthroid. Nothing changed–still no symptoms. Sometime this summer I got my TSH levels checked: They were through the roof (like, in the 20s). So I’m back on the drugs, but again–ZERO symptoms. What’s UP??
I’m 37, female, breastfeeding 1x/day, and eat paleo plus some dairy (almost always grass-fed). I don’t avoid nightshades (though don’t eat a ton of them) but I do put down a dozen eggs a week at least, and I’m not shy with the nuts. I’m pretty good about sleep, always have been (it was tough there for a while with the little one, but he’s pretty good now), and train crossfit 3-4x/week, capoeira 2-3x/week.
Sorry for such a long question! I realize I probably just need to suck it up and get myself to an endocrinologist, but I wondered if you had some kind of brilliant insight I could bring to the table.
Thanks!!
Charlotte
Hi Charlotte,
I also have Hashimotos with pretty much no symptoms. I only discovered it when I had a general check-up last year. My TSH is a borderline high, T3, T4, low normal, but high anti-bodies. The endo found I was pretty much symptomless, good reflexes etc. It my be that even though you have Hashi’s your thyroid is still sending out adequate T3 T4 so you don’t get symptoms, but it must be struggling to do that if your TSH shoots up off meds.
Check out Datis Kharrazian’s Thyroid book and website.
http://thyroidbook.com/
I’m doing paleo, strict gluten free, dairy free, and taking a few supplements Vit D, omega 3 etc. Hoping to keep my thyroid going as long as possible.
YES! I love the intro!
Angela, RE: infant formula
My wife and I went through quite an ordeal trying to find an acceptable formula once it became necessary for our first child. The WPF recipes were too involved for us and goat’s milk didn’t cover enough nutritional bases. We finally settled on Earth’s Best Organic w/DHA & ARA. It has a couple of undesirable ingredients, but they’re way down on the list and there’s no corn syrup. The good news is that you can introduce pureed food when the child is ~4 months and move toward normal paleo fare. By all means, run with the WPF recipe if you can manage it/keep your sanity, otherwise I can attest that our daughter turned out fine on the latter stuff.
Hi, I posted first and then read that you had responded to this item too.
There are breastmilk banks that families can buy breastmilk from as well.
Just another option.
For those non iTune users like myself, the feed for the podcast changed. Point your software to http://robbwolf.libsyn.com/rss to subscribe to the podcast.
Thanks Wayne! Will get this on the front page too.
Robb/Andy
Congrats on the 1 year of PS!
Back on the BCAA’s any type/Brand you would recommend?
I wish your families a good Holiday Season!
Chuck O
MRM is solid.
Thanks!
Robb, I have a friend whose 8 YO son has been diagnosed with an ulcer. As he was telling me my first thought was “Paleo Diet” (almost like a Pavlovian response!) They said “in his stomach”, so I’m assuming it’s a peptic ulcer. No other remarkable history other than he was 6-7 weeks premature. My google-foo came up empty of meaningful results searching for things like “ulcer + gluten” and “ulcer + celiac” but I thought I may have missed something. Any insights would be appreciated.
Continued great job on the show guys. FYI, it’s 11/3 and I don’t see the show in iTunes – not sure if there’s an issue but it usually shows up right away.
Thanks again,
JD
So long as H.Pylori isn’t involved I think a paleo diet isn’t a bad idea. I’m no internal med specialist though.
What’s the problem with H. Pylori and paleo? My pavlovian response to a friend is to go paleo due to a suspected stomach ulcer related to H. pylori.
I’m thinking the stomach/peptic ulcer issues are a bit more upstream than something a gluten intolerance woud necessarily cause directly, though I am 100% on the gluten is the devil bandwagon. That said, a few things I’d recommend. Ulcers are often a result of low stomach acid which can be a result of low probiotic content in the stomach. If the kid wasn’t breast fed, or even if he was but it wasn’t enough, some probiotics can be helpful. Clearly getting him checked for critters like H. Pylori is a good idea, but if it’s there, he’ll likely get a large dose of antibiotics, circling back to my original idea of the probiotics.
I’d check out “Digestive Wellness for Children” by Elizabeth Lipski for resources on probiotics that are helpful for kiddos specifically- though she doesn’t have the anti-gluten/grains slant, it’s an excellent book for parents looking to find and solve the ROOT CAUSE of their children’s health issues.
Low stomach acid can also be helped by some smaller meals, chewing better and, brace yourself, reducing sugar/carbs in the diet though some digestive enzymes may also help.
That’s my best thinking at the moment. Good luck and I’d love to hear how this goes!
Congrats on a year!
Is it just me, or is this one missing via iTunes?
Are you aware that episode 52 is not available on iTunes?
Sorry if I’m missing something obvious, but is there a reason that there is a delay with respect to these new episodes showing up in iTunes? Seems like 51 took a few days after your announcement, and as I type this episode 52 isn’t even in the index when you search for The Paleo Solution in itunes store.
Thanks a ton for your work,
Justin
Justin-
Will look into this. Libsyn seems to be slow.
Hey Robb
Just a thought on the first question… How useful is a sugar free electrolyte solution? My understanding is that the major mechanism of Sodium uptake from the gut is via the sodium/glucose co-transporter. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that a sugar ladened electrolyte concoction is the way to go, but if you need to uptake some sodium, you need to eat some carbs… at least from my understanding. (Alternatively, I believe there’s also an Amino Acid/Na+ Co-transporter, but looks like the sugar-free electrolyte solution your listener mentioned is AA free too…).
It really depends on the NEED. Do you need that glucose? If not you will absorb an isotonic solution just fine.
I thought it was more the other way around… how badly do you need the sodium? My understanding was that you need glucose to utilize the major sodium uptake mechanism in your gut… It was one of those ‘fun facts’ they taught us in Physiology that actually stuck with me!
Victoria-
I’ll check on that.
Happy first anniversary guys. Just happened to be on my birthday too!
A quick question about paleo meats. I realize grass-fed, naturally pastured, beef is best. But what about pork? What is the “natural” diet for pork?
I’ve found a local pork producer that sounds like they have pretty good natural practices. I inquired about their “Feed custom made on the farm” and the response I got was “We feed our pig a diet of wheat, barley and soya. We buy all the ingredients and make the feed on the farm.” This doesn’t necessarily sound natural to me, probably better than grocery store bought, but still probably high in omega-6.
Opinions on ideal natural feed for pork?
From what I’ve heard pigs will eat anything, which is the only thing that makes me nervous about eating pork sometimes.
Sounds like they feed their pigs exactly what they wouldn’t be eating in their natural environment though.
I’ve been wondering about this myself.
I’ve got a lot of autoimmune stuff going on, so I adhere to a very strict Robb Wolf paleo diet, including ridiculous quantities of fish oil per the RW calculator. I just got a side of grass fed beef, so this winter I plan on eating just wild caught fish & beef, roughly 50%-50%. But come spring I’d like to add in some other pastured meat sources for variety, with a mix over the course of a year of roughly 1/3 fish, 1/3 beef, 1/3 other [mostly pork & poultry, but also lamb, venison, buffalo].
Ordering grass-fed beef is pretty straightforward, but I’m less confident re: the optimal diet & environment for pastured pork & poultry. I’ve been researching, but unlike beef, there seems to be less consensus on what our pigs & chickens should be eating. Apparently even pigs & chickens that are pasture-raised, free-ranging foragers are still always supplemented with a fair amt of grain in their diet. For instance, Joel Salatin of Omnivores Dilemma fame says his foraging broilers get only 20% from grass, bugs, worms, grubs – the rest from corn, toasted soybean, & kelp which is scooped into long troughs. And pastured pigs seem to be fed just about anything.
Two questions:
1. Obviously any pastured pork & poultry is going to better than the industrial version, but how much better? The nutritional difference between grassfed and industrial beef is significant [n-3/n-6 profile, CLA, vitamins, toxins, etc], but does this nutritional advantage hold with these other pastured animals, especially given how much grain and other PUFAs they consume?
2. How does pork & poultry compare to beef, lamb & bison? Should we, as a general rule, be limiting pork & poultry [even pastured] and favoring grassfed beef and wild caught fish? [I think this is what Dr Kurt Harris suggests] Is eating 1/3 of my meat from pork & poultry too much? Would someone with a history of autoimmune issues be better off avoiding or limiting the pork & poultry? Would all that pork & poultry tend to offset some of the beneficial effects of the beef & fish?
I seem to remember (in book, podcast or blog comments) Robb saying something about chickens eating grains like flax seed and their bodies convert the shorter chain n6’s into longer chain n6’s. Wish I could find that comment again.
I also seem to recall a comment regarding pork eating slop as the best diet; ie, a mixture of vegetable kitchen scraps, etc.
Obviously pigs, chickens and cattle all have very different digestive systems and evolved to eat different optimal diets. The question is what is the best for each of these?
Now that I’ve actually cooked up some pork bacon (with fairly low salt content and no sugar added) I’m really pumped on bacon again. I’m all with Andy on the pork fat as a cooking oil, the eggs cooked in bacon fat were amazing. I just want to make sure I’m eating the best possible pork I can find to go with my 30lbs of grass-fed, naturally pastured beef that I’ll be getting in a couple of weeks.
The question on burnout, hat was one of the best questions I have heard on this podcast ever.
Someone post a URL for Andy’s blog please.
http://chasingcapacity.com
Hey Robb/Andy
When will the podcast be available on iTunes?
just checking but still not on iTunes…think it’ll be there soon or should we just DL from your site here?
Hey Robb and Andy,
Congrats on the 1 year deal hope that there are many more to come.
Now, if Episode 52 were on i-tunes my collection would be complete…
Thanks for all you guy’s do!!
I certainly did catch the bad side of the spam filter. It is both racist and effective.
But, and this probably sounds rude (not meant to be) do you have any helpful words for my many posts?
Thanks for any help
podcast amigo!
Episode 52 is not showing up in itunes …. !
Is episode 52 going to be on iTunes soon? I keep checking, but it is still not there. My Tuesday was not the same without you:)
Episode 52 is not showing up on itunes…:(
Should be showing up on iTunes now – sorry for the delay!
Hey Robb, have you heard anything about a low carb dieÞ triggering cortisol production? I have read this but I am assuming it is the low cals and not low carbs that is triggering the stress response.
I have also read that cortisol gets raised along w/glucagon.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks…..
Ian
Many people yammer about this but the science is just not there. Where are the extremely high cortisol levels in ketogenic diet controlled epileptics? If someone is trying to eat low-carb AND train at a very high intensity I could see a problem, but that is where CLC and other protocols solve this potentiality.
I actually have eaten a ketogenic/paleo diet for 5+years (all grass fed,organic, no fruit, no grain, legume, etc.), train 2-20minute high intensity workouts a week, get good dark sleep, sleep like a baby ….. and yet my cortisol levels are off the ASI chart all day long, my A1c levels are 5.4, and I have stubborn fat around the middle. I’ve been at my wit’s end trying to figure this out! I got a glucometer to see what was going on and it confounds me even more – sometimes after a grass-fed beef and broccoli/greens/peppers mix of veggies my blood sugar goes up to 118-125 (1 hour post prandial). The only way I can keep it below 100 in between meals is to eat something like only eggs. My fasting blood sugar is typically 95 – 106. All this happens when I keep my carb intake well under 50g and usually under 30! If you have any thoughts on a direction to go, I’d appreciate it very much. Oh, in case it matters, I’m a 56 year old female, very strong and healthy, 5’7″ weighing about 135 (though waist measurement almost puts me in the unhealthy category).
Cool, thanks Robb. Yeah, I have made the mistake of high intensity exercise on low carbs in the past. Lesson learned. Now I do my wendler 531 and walk the dog for exercise. Much better…..
No doubt.
ROFL intro was hilarious, love the “egads”
Hi – in regards to the couple adopting a baby.
There are breastmilk banks around the county. If they contact their local Leleche league they could find a close supplier. While you may not be sure the type of diet the mother was eating when the milk was expressed I know it would be better than soy based formula and I suspect much better than the other formulas on the shelf at the grocery.
Just some milk for thought.
dudes, love the BSG music in the intro. Fracking awesome.
Hey Robb:
I met you @ the Borders book signing in Ramsey (I was the 1st guy you saw with the book when you walked in!) Thanks for the great info. Just finished listening to Podcast #52 & Q#11 on Testosterone Usage got me thinking….How strong can a 195lb male get NATURALLY, CrossFit 3/4 per week, following Paleo 90% of the time?
I’d look to the data in pre-1940’s era lifters and body-builders for a good standard. Thanks for coming out to the Ramsey gig!!
Read the book and just realized you had a podcast. Looking forward to it but curious why iTunes shows the podcast as “explicit”? I’m not a prude per se but curious not having listened yet and it wouldn’t seem the subject matter all that provocative. Have you a potty mouth or something 😉
Occasional we say shit, damn or even a frack or two. Just easier to put it in that category so folks know it MIGHT be dodgy to listen to in front of the kids. We generally try to keep it clean but we are also pretty impassioned by these topics and that comes through in the language occasionally.
There is also a drinking game involved…
Robb, are baby is starting solids and they are recommending cereals due to iron supplementation. Thoughts on avoid cereals and finding baby safe foods with iron? Is it even feasible? is this one of those occassions where you find the best of the worse?
Thanks,
Tony-
Puree’d meat. You are good to go.
http://www.drjacknewman.com/help/Breastfeeding%20Adopted%20Baby%20or%20or%20Surrogate.asp
Just wanted to provide this link in case you hadn’t found this option. Dr Jack Newman is a great breastfeeding advisor.
Best wishes with the adoption, that is an amazing gift to a child.
Great show, Thanks for talking about BCAA’s, I want to try leangains and wasn’t sure. Also, thanks for putting Paleo in perpective (not a historical reenactment).
Hey Robb,
My sister went to an endocrinologist who seemed to be okay with Paleo, but had “some issues” with it after getting back from some conference:
“Saturated fat is no more than 7%, and should not be eaten late at night because it can cause fatty acid syndrome which will destroy fundamental nutrients in the body.”
Also: “Folate deficiency sounds like a potential issue.”
Could you briefly explain why this woman is wrong?
Thanks so much,
Dan
Well hit this in the podcast. The endo needs some help.
Dan-Will hit this in the podcast.
to the above: sat fat should be no more than 7% of the diet. sorry
Dan-
How is that when it was never that low at any point in our history?
Sorry that was the same Dan twice trying to clarify what 7% meant. Guess that makes just one less idiot out there on the internet
Hey just wanted to chime in and say how helpful this podcast was. Is there anyway we could get a link to the Josh Everett article you were talking about? I’ve been trying to find his views on training for quite a while, but after some time looking around the performance menu site (as well as google searching), I can’t find anything. Thanks
Dan-
that can be found in a Performance Menu issue with Dr. Garrett Smith. Perhaps 2 years ago.
A super big congratulations on your 1 year, and cheers to many more (with a So Cal Margarita!)
Thanks Mia!!
Regarding BREASTFEEDING alternatives:
Just listened to ep. 52 (just started listening a month ago and going through older shows). Sorry if this has been covered in one of the many comments here. Angela, have you heard about donated breast milk? There are nursing mothers who will donate their extra breast milk to a milk bank for adopted babies or babies with sick mothers who are unable to breastfeed themselves. You can find one in your area by contacted the local La Leche League or a Lactation Consultant. Even if you got just enough for a few initial feeding, the baby would benefit tremendously. I can’t emphasize enough that EVERY SINGLE feeding of breast milk benefits the baby, even if you can just do it once.
Also, some adopting parents use herbs, nipple stimulation, etc. to make the body produce breast milk. Your body is tricked into the hormonal state of a lactating mother. I’m not sure what Robb would think of this from the biochemical standpoint. It takes work, but there are detailed instructions in the book The Nursing Mothers Companion by Kathleen Huggins.
Best Wishes,
Jessica, Certified Birth Doula
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactagogue
As far as using herbs goes these should do the trick. Especially by dosing up on fenugreek (a common curry spice btw).
Robb,
Jenn here, from the prolactin question. I so much appreciated your help on this and wanted to give you an update. Right after this podcast aired, I had my regular 3 month endocrinology appointment. They told me my case had been presented at a conference, and it was determined that I had a dopamine resistant tumor. Thought this was a perfect time to go off the meds (with doc’s blessing) and participate in my gym’s paleo challenge. I was strict for the whole 5 week challenge. By the end, I was ready to take a header into the Missouri River and had gained about 13lbs. Next set of blood work indicated my prolactin had gone through the roof AND, as if that wasn’t enough, apparently the tumor is also producing IGF-1. Hmm…might answer some of my questions…anyway, sounds like surgery is the only option to reach my body comp goals and be off meds for good. Looking to schedule after the first of the year.
However, I know the paleo lifestyle will help the recovery process and my hope is that things start moving quickly in the right direction after the medical intervention. Either way, I feel better when I’m compliant so that really is the bigger and more important issue anyway.
Again, thank you so much for the suggestions, options and advice. You truly are changing and saving lives.
WOW! that is something else. Jenn, keep us updated, really want to know how you are doing every couple of weeks, ok?
OK. Right now in a holding pattern…back on meds. Mental status much better & training is going well. Not moving very quickly towards body comp goals, but trying to refocus energies and recognize limitations. Control what you can control, right? HA!
Next endo appt is in November, so will get you an update after that.
Here goes…we have officially exceeded my endocrinology knowledge (I know just enough to be dangerous), and my docs could be speaking Wookie for all I understand.
So I had a recheck of IGF-1..still elevated. We scheduled an oral glucose tolerance with growth hormone test. This involved fasting after the prior evening meal, baseline insulin and growth hormone test, then drink the orange “sludge”, followed by blood draws at 30 minutes, 60 minutes and 120 minutes. Results came back as follows:
Insulin Growth Hormone
Baseline 92 2
30min. 125 < .5
60min. 113 < .5
120min. 100 2
Theoretically, growth hormone was still supposed to be suppressed to less than .5 at 120min, however, since insulin was no longer elevated, they do not believe I am producing growth hormone. Please keep in mind they are still conferencing about this and have not definitively made up their minds. All of this is a good thing, I think, but brings me back to square one. Am just going to have to keep on searching for the answer. Hopefully surgery will solve lots of problems.
Sooo, for the sake of discussion, is there a reason that insulin would go back down so quickly? Could it be the result of being reasonably insulin sensitive? If insulin is generally lower, could this cause inflated IFG-1?
It’s been an adventure being a medical mystery, but it sure would be nice to finally have some answers. Hope I haven’t bored you to tears with all this nonsense!
Hmmm…this is actually really interesting. What are your liver enzymes looking like? Are you pretty lean?
Hepatic Function (as of 09/20/10)
Total Protein 7.4
Albumin 3.8
Alk. Phos. 69
Total Bili 1.3 (flagged as high)
SGOT(AST) 15
SGPT(ALT) 31
Direct BILI. .2
As far as the lean question..no. That is the problem. When this whole process started, approx 4 years ago, I was 292 (yuck!) and was down as low as 179 right before Christmas last year. I am back up to around 205 now. Hence the freaking out! The increase started when I went off the meds. Now…in all fairness…I joined a local Crossfit gym late December so I know that some of that weight will be muscle mass and I am certainly much fitter, but that amount of weight gain doesn’t seem reasonable to me. In addition, definitely not leaning out how I want. (Holy! This is a lot of personal info, so somebody better be learning something here. HA! All in the name of science.)
hmmm. Let me noodle on this a bit.
i have a lipase count of 13. The reference range is 11 – 80. How big a deal is this as I’m leaning out. I’m 5’8″, 270 and am 2 weeks into strict paleo, but several months into grain free.
Thanks!