Back with episode 45. We have disabled comments on this post until we get the new site up (hopefully later today).
Here is the fish oil link that Robb talked about during the podcast.
Download a transcript for Episode 45
Show topics:
- Too much coconut?
- Gestational diabetes
- Protein and fat effect on blood sugar
- Blood sugar values
- Effects of sugary mixed alcohol drinks
- Tannins
- Assessing impact of different foods
- Raised cholesterol
- Will power
- Soy in fish oil
Show notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_45
no audio player? is that why it no longer works from my RSS reader?
Hi, the podcast feed should be fixed now. Try it again, if you please!
The redesign is very nice though
hmm…. i cant figure out how to hear it, read the questions but no podcast answers??
Hi, the podcast feed should be fixed now. Please try it again.
fancy website, very nice.
Itunes can’t find the new podcast.
Error says,
The URL
“http://robbwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/The-Paleolithic-Solution-Episode-45.mp3” could not be found on the server.
Did you guys move the podcasts? or am I just having my owns issues… (wouldnt be the first time)
Hi, the podcast feed should be fixed now. Try it once more, if you don’t mind.
They may not be done setting up the feed for the podcast ct.
FWIW, I don’t try to have the longest questions. 🙂
Also, for the number of steps, I’m actually counting just one foot, so the true steps is double. I walk too fast to count each step, so just count them two at a time.
I suppose if I did this on a treadmill or elliptical (yuck) I would have a specific strides/minute rate and could use it as a very accurate gauge of how much o2 I’m needing. Hmmm.
Now, about those books. What does it say about me that I have 4 on pre-order but am considering going to the bookstore tonight to see if they have it so I can start reading now?
Robb—
I have to start by saying that you rock. Your blog, your podcasts, and now the book—they are gifts to all of us. I even like your jokes, wacked out though they are. So thanks.
Apologies in advance for the length of my question. I figure more information is better, so here goes:
I am a 51-year-old, not-quite-menopausal woman. (FSH measured in July was 46.3 mIU/mL.) I am 5’11” tall and weigh 150 lbs. I have no idea what my body fat percentage is, but I stay pretty muscular. As long as I look and feel good, BF does not concern me. I have been bulletproof (not grassfed) paleo for 5 years, with gradually declining carbohydrate consumption over the course of that time. I bought Friel and Cordain’s Paleo Diet for Athletes in 2005 and pretty much never looked back. Unfortunately, I spent a couple of decades before that in low-fat, high carb la-la land. But didn’t we all?
I have been an athlete of some sort all my life. Thank you, Title IX!! My training cycles vary, but there has been no shortage of weight-bearing exercise. Right now, for example, my week consists of two 50-minute kettlebell workouts (with a 14 kg bell or two 12 kg bells), one bodyweight strength session, two yoga sessions, two sprint sessions running on pavement, and a couple of joint mobility sessions.
My concern is osteoporosis. My bone density scan last month showed osteopenia in my lower spine (total T-score of L1-L4 was -1.90) and looming osteopenia of the hip (total T-score of -0.97.) I live in North Carolina. I get 30 minutes or more of midday sun in the summer months. In the winter I supplement with 2000 IU of Vitamin D3. I also take 375mg of Chelated Magnesium and 900 mg of Krill Oil per day. I have taken supplemental calcium on and off over the years, depending on the news cycle of the moment. Not a good source of information, but sometimes they suck me in. I have also been on oral contraceptives (Desogestrel Ethinyl Estradiol) for approximately 15 years.
The osteopenia diagnosis freaked me out. I mean, it TOTALLY freaked me out. My mother has terrible osteoporosis and recently broke her hip. Her doc told me her bones were “horrendously soft.” I just do not want to go there.
How can I stop this? I have been a heavy coffee drinker all my life, but gave it up effective today, when my scan results came in. What else? Should I be taking calcium? If so, what kind? Vitamin K2? What else can I do? Is this just my genetic destiny?
Thanks again, Elizabeth
Hi Catherine
I did a bit of research recently about co-factors for bone strength and healing:
First – make sure your vit D is at 50ng/ml. You need it high for maximum calcium and phosphorus absorption. Some people need 10,000iu per day to reach this level. Only way to check is a test.
You also need B vitamins – it’s worth getting a B12 / Folic acid test, as some people don’t absorb it well even if it’s in your diet.
Here’s a list of other co-factors – all needed for bone health. some of these are low in our soils.
Silicon 8mg
Zinc 10 – 20mg (best natural source oysters)
Boron 3 mg
Magnesium 200 – 400mg
Vitamin K1 from foods like kale
Vitamin K2 100mcg (supplement)
Vitamin A 250iu (found in calves liver)
Selenium 150mcg (2 -3 Brazil nuts per day will give you selenium)
If your Vitamin D levels are high you shouldn’t need calcium as supplementation can increase blood calcium too much. Ensure you keep your diet alkaline, and lift heavy weights.
http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/success-stories-w-o-drugs-part-2/
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/homegrown-osteoporosis-prevention-and.html
Julianne
You gonna have a kindle version of your book? Please do
Andy… I love your laugh!!
The podcast on itunes wont download because the episode is not on the server. Help!
Elizabeth,
Many people advocate weight lifting, with heavy weights, to help build bone strength. The big functional lifts ala Starting Strength. That could be something to ask your doctor about.
Hi Robb! Thanks for answering my long question (and thanks to Andy for picking it.. I knew he had a soft spot for coconut :))! The reason I stuck with paleo even when the acne got worse is because I felt better overall and performance and body comp was improving so much too. My acne is almost all gone now (there was a big change after cutting out nuts, seeds and eggs) but I am super strict to the degree that it really should be all gone, so I’ll put some primrose oil back in. I actually have tried primrose oil but that was when I was still taking the fish oil and I didn’t see an improvement. I’ll give it a few weeks and let you know how it goes. As for the coconut question, I don’t notice a problem with coconut oil but I find it hard to stomach it straight. I’ve gotten rid of all that citric acid containing coconut milk – the few times I had it I was in pain and bloated for at least a full day afterwards. I haven’t tried creamed coconut again since I sent in the question because it also caused so much of a problem, but the coconut milk I’m using now in my coffee and in some meals with the guar gum seems to be just fine as long as I don’t overdo it, and I eat coconut chips as a snack and have been fine. I can’t make Andy’s delicious apple coconut pudding because I can’t stop myself from eating too much of it – that’s probably the fat overdose issue. Anyways, thanks again for answering my question and I’ll update you on the primrose oil. Oh, and I like Andy’s laugh too. 🙂
Just to chime in – I also had problems with indigestion & bloating after eating coconut. Coconut products I consumed that were problematic: plain coconut chunks, creamed coconut, coconut butter (raw spread, not plain oil), and coconut flour (I was taking 1-3 tbsp mixed with plain water and nothing else just to add fiber to my diet, back when I believed in doing such things).
Coconut foods that did NOT cause problems for me: coconut milk and coconut oil. So I’m wondering if some people are sensitive to some kind of fiber, antinutrient, or other gut irritant in coconut that is reduced in the processing of the coconut milk and oil. There seems to be controversy on the web about the phytate content of coconut. Of course, it’s a non-issue if you can identify there is a problem and then avoid it, but coconut is so often recommended that throwing some caveats into the mix might be helpful to some.
Yep, Andy has a highly amusing laugh, and I hope that can be worked into the podcast drinking game as well! 🙂
Mee-Lise! Thanks for the input! I really did think I was a little crazy sending in that question because I hardly ever meet anyone in the paleo community that doesn’t respond well to coconut – everyone seems to think it’s awesome! I’m ketogenic most of the time (carbs only post workout) and I have gone overboard both on meat and fat with this diet and experienced the nastiness of both of those, but the bloating I got from the coconut was more of a gluten/grain exposure-type bloating/pain than a too much fat type pain. I know that the coconut milk with the citric acid was hurting me a lot so that could be a processing thing. Otherwise, like you, the oil and my current coconut milk is just fine. I’m hesitant to try products with the fiber again though because I felt so horrible. Also, it’s not easy to track them down without additives; the creamed coconut I have is the only stuff without added crap that I could find! I used to make a lot of stuff from coconut flour with eggs which caused all sorts of stomach pain (I thought it was the eggs though) and I’ve pretty much given up on all of that fake neolithic foods type stuff and now I just eat a lot of meat (I found some grass fed ground beef!), fat (coconut oil, coconut milk and animal fat) and some veggies and coffee with coconut milk in the morning. I’m pretty much at a point in my life where eating anything bad makes me feel so horrible that it just isn’t worth it. I feel better than ever but it would be nice to know what the heck is really behind my problems with coconut. I guess I could try actually buying a real whole coconut and see how I feel after eating that.
I, too, have some problems with eating many coconut products. It seems coconut oil is the only one I can eat (and I do daily) that doesn’t cause bloating and headache feelings. I did make a cookie from coconut cream concentrate yesterday and ate some of the dough – felt like crap for a while, so I avoided the actual cookies after they were baked. BUT I ate a couple of them today and feel fine. I wonder if cooking/baking the coconut does something??? Who knows…
Hey Robb,
Through the help of my awesome coaches Mary and Mike Woodruff at Crossfit Rockwall in Rockwall, Texas, who directed me to your site last year. I was able to cure my diabetes type 2 (no more 1000mg metformin daily) and my high blood pressure (no more Lisinopril). I have a whole lot less heart burn. My liver enzymes are now normal for the first time in years and my physical fitness is 100 times better than a little over a year ago.
We talked about this before but I just wanted to drop you a line and ask a question about LDL. My last blood work showed my LDL at 138 and my Dr. says that since everything else is normal it is probably genetic and I will have to take a statin for the rest of my life. I never got the medication from the store. Can I do something else? Tweak something? Should I even worry about the LDL number? I really don’t want to take a statin….
Also wanted to ask your opinion about colon cancer, I’ve read that there is a possible genetic link to colon cancer. My grandfather and father both had it. My brother has polyps every time they do a colonoscopy and I had 3 polyps back in 2007 when I was 34. I just wanted to hear your take on it.
I should add that I was on a statin for years and went off of it when my blood work was showing normal. The LDL is the only thing that went back up after a few months of being off the statin.
Just finished the most recent POD cast and you addressed the same issue with another guy. I take 14 caps of fish oil every night so that oculd be what is up with my LDL. Plus you stated that the book, which I can’t wait to get in the mail, will address blood work results. Thanks a bunch!
This podcast was awesome and really interesting for me since I am 5 months pregnant, and a type 1 diabetic having been on an insulin pump for over 3 years.
I’m not giving medical advice here, but I use the dual wave bolus function for high fat meals. If I were to take extra insuling for a high fat meal my blood sugar would drop a couple of hours later because as Robb said, there is no extra glucose being released, fat just changes the absorption rate of carbohydrates. The dual wave bolus allows me to take a certain percentage of my bolus right away (I normally do 70-75%), and then the rest of the bolus later (I normally do an hour later). I use this function if I’m starting out a meal with low blood sugar but I do the opposite, take a small percentage right away and then the remainder of the bolus 30 minutes later. I have a minimed paradigm 522 but I assume all pumps have similar functionality.
Some doctors or diabetic educators may not introduce that function right away because they want you to kind of get the hang of using the basic functions of a pump first. In fact, I didn’t really know how the dual wave worked until I got pregnant (now at 5 months pregnant and still doing CrossFit).
Thanks for the info Robb! Looking forward to hearing more about diabetes, especially the lesser known and talked about type 1!
Hi Robb and Andy, I’m very thankful for the podcast, please keep it up!
Quick question, i’ve been seeing around in many athletes that they were these magnetic bracelets and all say that they work,Do you know anyone or do you have any kind of experience from wearing such a thing?
Thank’s
Robb, your podcasts are amazing and I especially love how your PASSION to help people came through in this podcast. “Impassioned bit of something in your life… Being in love with something and wanting to chase that.” Love it. Keep up the great work (you too Andy!) and great job on making top 50 on Amazon!
For Andy,
CrossfitMom is a site tailored for pregnant woman who still want to do CrossFit while pregnant or start CrossFitting while pregnant. They’ve been around for at least two years. They don’t have an affiliation like CF Football or CF Endurance. My wife started using them when she was pregnant before we moved to Okinawa and going to CF Asia.
From their website (CrossFitMom.com):
“CrossFit Mom is designed for pregnant women, post-partum women, and women who are thinking about becoming pregnant. We offer CrossFit workouts, scaled for all three trimesters and post-partum women. You can ask questions about scaling, substitutes for exercises or equipment, or something specific to your situation. Whether you already do CrossFit workouts, or want to start, we can help you on your fitness journey.”
Hope that helps.
-Ben
Hi Guys
Loving the podcasts and eagerly awaiting my copy of the book to get to New Zealand.
Robb, a quick question for you for a future podcast perhaps: I am a confirmed non-breeder… kids just aint on my radar. I love my sleep far too much and I think the world is a better place for only having one of me to terrorise it anyway. However, this then leaves the problem of keeping the soldiers off the beach as it were. My current partner in crime is on the OCP but when you buy into the whole Paleo gig, there is just something that doesn’t sit right with me when it comes to firing extra hormones into her body.
She has her own issues with regard to being coeliac and having multiple sensitivities either as a result of or alongside that. Eating a paleo diet has done wonders for her health, but I just know that the OCP is keeping her from going that next step. And indeed, I know that her leaky gut issues are both exacerbated by the OCP and are affecting her ability to get a good consistent level of hormones into her system. I tend to think that getting a full dose one day and then not so much the next causes more problems than getting consistent daily doses (I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case with many women). My partner experiences a lot of breakthrough bleeding which I think is as a result of the inconsistent intake of the OCP.
We have looked at other contraceptive options such as IUD’s and condoms, but I don’t see the IUD as being much better overall and she has a latex allergy, so condoms are not much, er, fun… The obvious choice given my decision not to breed is vasectomy. The only thing really stopping me is that I have read that the leakage from a vasectomy can lead to an autoimmune state as the previously isolated sperm come into contact with systemic immune defences.
Have you heard of this autoimmunity and do you think it is much of an issue in someone who is otherwise following a Paleo lifestyle and at the top of their game in the health stakes?
Thanks in advance if you can get to this question. I know you are a busy man and any advice is appreciated.
Cheers,
Jamie
Hi Robb, just wanted to tell you that your answer to the question of Will Power was awesome and very inspirational. It is the most softspoken pep talk I have ever heard. I hope you don’t mind that I have used that very snippet on my blog in a post where I compare the Raw Vegan rhetoric to the Paleo one represented by yours. Of course, I link to your site and btw, congrats with the new look on the site. Awesome!
Here’s the blog post: http://kostbloggeren.blogspot.com/2010/09/paleo-eller-raw-vegan-du-bestemmer.html
The blog is in Danish and I should think that many of my readers will attend your seminar in Hellerup next month. I know I will.
Keep up the good work, you and Andy are rocking the world.
/Michael
Regarding coconut milk, take a look at what’s said about added flour, by a Thai native who’s also written a couple of cookbooks: “I do not recommend canned ‘light coconut milk’ – it has little flavor, if any at all. Usually, some kind of flour has been added to make it look thicker and whiter than it really is, although this is not made known in the listing of ingredients. Better results can be obtained by thinning a good-quality, creamy coconut milk with water or cooking liquids to the lightness desired.”
She also then follows with some lines about coconut milk being non-atherogenic – written in 2000.
oops, the URL:
http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/ingredients/cocmilk.html
Light coconut milk always seemed pretty silly to me. Just dilute the regular stuff.
Hey Robb,
Congrats on the successful release! My copy comes in today and I’m excited to start reading.
A couple things quickly:
Someone mentioned this last week, but I’m remembering to follow up about it. After getting my top wisdom teeth removed a couple weeks ago, I was just fine without the pain meds (I think i took them for 2 days, Ibuprofen, but even that was probably unnecessary), and didn’t have any swelling (there was some amazement from people when I came to work the next day). I was taking .5g/10 lbs body weight of fish oil and totally paleo at the time, so if people are wondering about that I think they are in a really good position from the minor surgery standpoint.
Secondly, is there a chance people are reacting to the metabisulfite that’s common in canned coconut milk? You can buy it in those cartons that almond milk tends to come in (usually as coconut cream or 100% coconut milk), and anecdotally I think I’ve had fewer problems with drinking that stuff straight than my canned variety. I wonder because I looked it up and saw that people can sometimes have strong reactions to sulfites. Just a thought.
Good luck on the tour!
Show topics:
0. Introduction 0.00
1. Too much coconut? 6.56
2. Gestational diabetes 14.39
3. Protein and fat effect on blood sugar 18.03
4. Blood sugar values 22.05
5. Effects of sugary mixed alcohol drinks 29.24
6. Tannins 33.15
7. Assessing impact of different foods 39.10
8. Raised cholesterol 44.58
9. Will power 51.37
10. Soy in fish oil (microwaving food too) 1.04.42
11. End 1.11.34
You’re pretty awesome for doing this
Robb
Just a follow up on the part on breath control. The Buteyko method is based on the idea of upping the amount of oxegen in the cells by upping the amount of carbon dioxide; which is done obviously enough by holding your breath. Practitioners do something similar to Bill by holding their breath while walking for longer and longer periods of time. I used this method to combat my asmtha and can now hold my breath for 100 steps. My asmtha was cured where all else, including Paleo, could not fully manage to do so. Buteyko claimed that hyperventilation, which he claimed caused low cell oxegen levels, was a disease of civilisation. Weston Price backed this up and noted that mouth breathing started when societies moved from their traditional lifestyles to industrialised ones. Buteyko also claimed that a vegan diet best improved breathing but I simply ignore that. It may be that the next Paleo recommendation after food, sleep and exercise is to get your breathing to evolutionary norms. Thoughts?
Anyone else having trouble accessing all the podcasts on iTunes? It’s only showing me episodes 36-45.
Great podcast, as always.
In response to Jason’s question on LDL, I’d point out that when a person’s triglycerides are low the normal method for calculating LDL – the Friedewald formula – doesn’t work well. The preferred calculation method is the Iranian formula.
Putting Jason’s numbers into the Iranian formula yields 225 instead of 277. Here’s a calculator that shows both calculated LDLs:
http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~geoff36/LDL_mg.htm
Hi Robb,
My mother – who has been eating paleo for a couple of months now told me today that one benefit she has experienced is that her bladder spasm, and urgency – which has been bothering her for some time (years I think) has gone – she is surprised and thrilled.
By the way mum is 78 and she and dad 79 have been following the Zone for about 15 years, they tried paleo after my rave reviews! Interesting – like me (and many others) she experienced further benefits from paloe food choices. Mum says their friends think they are mad, and complain they don’t know what to feed them when they visit! My dad (being a psychiatrist) is used to people thinking he’s mad.
I thought I listened to the podcast last week via an audio player, not just the mp3. Did this go away sometime in the last 6 days? Hope it comes back as I cannot download the mp3 at work and love listening along in the background while working.
Oh man, I’ve been trying to catch up through the archives and didn’t realize my question made it on until today. Thanks for taking the time out to answer and I’ll see when I can schedule the tests you suggested, feel free to add more as my bloodwork is fully covered as preventative care under my employers plan (score one for working for The Man).
Apologies for missing your booksigning, didn’t have any conflicts, just an oversight on my part. Can’t wait to get my hands on a copy. Thanks again!
I doubt that it’s related, but pretty much the only asthma treatment I have found that works is the buteyko metod. Nobody can make money from it, so it’s not well known. If it was a drug, it would be a household name 🙂
I’m fairly new to this site and have been looking to where I register in order to post a question or comment. Since it appears that I do not need to log in first, this comment only serves as a test. Feel free to delete this comment.
Joe-
No need to register, we just moderate the comments.
Thanks for clearing that up Robb. By the way… In case Andy happends to read this, I’m not going to comment on my being one of the 6 listeners. Oh crap!!…just did.
Anyway, I do have a question regarding my wife. But I need to mention first that I have been doing Crossfit for almost a year now and have been trying to get her to join me. I think she is interested but she told me something recently that made me realize why she has been avoiding it.
She is 40 years of age and we’ve had 2 children. The 1st was born 9 years ago. Ever since having children, if she does any form of bouncing exercise, she experiences what she calls “involuntary urination”. We’re not talking a full bladder depletion, its more like “squirts”.
I’m not sure if this is an appropriate place to post this question, but I suspect there are some smart minds here who could make a suggestion or at least point us in the right direction in terms of who we should speak too.
What happend to her to have caused this?
Is it possible that a specific exercise would help control this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, I’ve read the book and purchased roughly 7 more copies to distribute to other members at the Crossfit that I attend and 1 for my parents and 1 for a good friend…who has also joined Crossfit.
Changing lives is great.
Joe,
I’m not surprised no one has given you an answer with regard to your question because, though it is a common problem among aging women no matter how many children she has born, it is embarrassing. So, I am just going jump in with both feet (so to speak) and let you know what I did to totally heal my body of this condition.
I am a 46 yr old mother of 9 children and am expecting baby #10 in the spring. After baby #7 when I entered my 40’s I noticed a similar problem when I tried to jump on our backyard trampoline with my kids or tried jump roping.
We had an indoor mini-tramp that I set up right near my master bathroom. I wore a regular sized menstrual pad. I would daily jump on the mini-tramp for 15 or longer minutes (usually listening to something on my ipod) and take breaks to use the bathroom as needed.
The action of jumping on the mini-tramp causes the feminine body to automatically tighten the kegel muscles. After doing this for several weeks I was completely healed and no more leaking!! I can run, jump and play without any trouble.
Happy jumping!