Here is episode 25 for your enjoyment. We had a couple recording hiccups so I had to edit out a few snippets of audio, but I was able to save all the content. And for those who requested a picture here is the legendary Keystone Gato!
Download a transcript of Episode 25
Show Topics
- How the body uses fuel
- 70s Big
- Muscle soreness
- Chronic constipation
- Former endurance junkie
- Blood work / Benecol
- Ulcerative Colitis
- Sleep
- Extreme fatigue & Low heart rate
Show Notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_25
Random question… What are your thoughts on whiskey?
Adam-
More of a Tequila guy, but Whiskey is fine.
Hola Robb, great podcast again! Love the picture of Keystone too, thanks for posting it!
Wanted to give a quick update on some things that have changed since posting my question a few weeks ago. My partner and I have gone completely off nightshades for the last four weeks to try and help with the gut problems.
I have also cut out the fruit I was eating each day (not much, about half an orange, etc) but have seen a significant energy loss from this. I’ve tried upping my calories to compensate with more coconut milk and veggies, but nada. Seems like if there isn’t some easy sugars there then it just doesn’t help. Its been like this about 5 weeks now, not sure if I should keep as is because its just my body being wacky from its other illnesses and taking a long time to learn to cope without those sugars or if you’ve run across people who actually need that bit of fruit sugar in their diet everyday.
Hope its a sun filled day there for you guys! Lisa/Sundog
From question 6:
Cholesterol (Fasting) : 4.8 mmo1/1 -> 187 mg/dl
Trigliceride : 0.62 mmo1/1 -> 55 mg/dl
HDL : 1.37 mmo1/1 -> 53mg/dl
LDL : 3.15 mmo1/1 -> 123 mg/dl
For those of us who still use mg/dl. Honestly those look amazing to me, but I don’t have an itchy statin-prescribing trigger finger.
Jess-
The HDL could be better and we do not know the story behind the LDL particles, but they are likely good given the triglycerides.
Louie Simmons’ stuff is just plain genius; he shares much with the likes Nikola Tesla in that he’s way ahead of his time, obviously not overly concerned with financial gain, and could give a rat’s narrow ass about what the “experts” think. Crossfitters’ ears should perk when the man who synthesized the Conjugate System from the (at the time, highly obscure) Russian and Bulgarian “schools” opines that maybe, just maybe, a trainee should *ease* into the whole Crossfit methodology. Crossfit is little more than high-rev GPP, and no one knows GPP better than Louie.
Thanks, btw, for another fan-damn-tabulous show, fellas. Super stuff.
thanks Keith!
Great Podcast guys (per usual!!) Quick Questions.. Are there any books or meal plans that you know of that one could follow in order to achieve Ketosis?
Also, about the mass gains.. If I wanted to stick to a low carb (less than 60 carbs per day other than post wod carbs which is about 30) what types of foods would I want to eat more of in order to up my calories and gain mass.. In other words, would it be better to up just my protein to say 1.5g/bwt, increase only my fat to 130 plus grams/day, or a slight increase in both?
Thanks for your help Rob..
Hello. I’m in my early 50’s, eating Paleo & doing CrossFit since last summer. A while back, you had recommended Cytomax for electrolyte replacement for those doing an endurance/distance biking or running event. The thought is that Cytomax is lower in sugar than Gatorade or similar product, & better tolerated by Paleo tummies. I kept this in mind knowing I had the goal of doing the MN Ironman century bike ride. Although I’m an experienced cyclist, it’s been 5 years since I’ve last done a century. Two days ago, I completed the 100 mile Ironman, in 45-degree temps, constant rain, and 20 mph winds. I drank Cytomax during & after the ride and not only experienced none of the lactic acid burn in my legs I had in training, I recovered very well and able to do a CrossFit WOD the next day. Thank you for the great advice.
Helen-
I like that stuff for these types of events. General paleo diet, then use that stuff on game day. Thanks for passing along your experience.
Great podcast as always guys! I always learn something.
Maybe you can answer a fun paleo question for me in the next podcast.
Since spring is now in full swing, I wonder:
If Robb had a garden what would he plant in it?
I like your podcast, thanks 🙂
I had an idea regarding the recording hiccups that happens sometimes.
If both Robb and Andy record on their own computer, if there is a network hick up (because the internet hates Robb 😉 ) Robb can just send his file to Andy that can mix together the files after.
And it makes sense that Robb records since he does 99% of the talking 😉
I will listen with or without glitches anyway 🙂
You guys are amazing. I really feel like I owe you a kidney or something. Since listening to your podcast and going Paleo, I have had an 80 percent reduction in muscle fatigue problems that I have had for years. Before going Paleo I had constant bouts of muscle pain, weakness, tendonitis and many problems. I had blood work done and went to many doctors, of course with no answers. Since going Paleo I have had a miraculous reduction in all of my problems, and my testosterone has shot up dramatically. My question for you guys concerns nuts. I was wondering what a better source of fats than nuts exists out there( mainly talking about the high concentration of omega six fatty acids). I hear you guys talking about coconut stuff all the time. Are you eating the oils for calories? I am already using olive oil for salads and cooking. I find nuts to be a delighful and cheap snack. I think the omega 6 that they contain are possibly causing me some small inflammation problems. What are your thoughts?
One more question, what would a typical days food consist of for you guys?
PS I can’t wait for you book to hit the shelves. I will be one of your eight listeners that buys one.
Jacob-
will hit this in a podcast.
Yowza! I nearly drove off the road when I heard myself mentioned on your podcast today, even just as the person that suggested asking you the question. I’m Diana with the last name that mere mortals dare not try to pronounce: Hsieh. Just so you know, it’s pronounced like “she” and “eh” mushed into a single syllable. “Shay” will do too, as will “of Modern Paleo.” 🙂
That was the question on muscle soreness, and I must admit that I was semi-befuddled by your answer. I don’t understand the difference between “eccentric loading” and “concentric loading,” nor what that implies for whether mild exercise to relieve muscle soreness will inhibit muscle growth or not.
However, I appreciated your friendly thoughts on BBS. Whenever my co-blogger Greg Perkins posts on NoodleFood (my personal blog) about the stellar results he’s gotten from CrossFit, we always seem to get a rush of strange criticisms of CrossFit from strident BBS advocates in the comments. Here’s the latest:
http://www.dianahsieh.com/blog/2010/04/better-test-of-crossfit-toughest-half.shtml
Does anyone know of any fair (and interesting) comparisons of CrossFit versus BBS?
Diana-
Apologies on the name butchery and the vague answer. Eccentric is lowering movements, concentric is raising. As you do a pull-up, the “up” is concentric, the “down” is eccentric. Eccentrics cause more tissue damage, and soreness. SMART selection in exercises (little eccentric, like walking with a wheel-barrel) can be very therapeutic, aid recovery and reduce soreness. Let me know if that chunk better answers your question and makes sense.
We have used mixed-modal training to great success with endurance athletes (sent a few to World for Tri). As time goes on I’m less inclined to call what we did/do CrossFit as we actually plan our programming, and gear training towards GOALS. Now, if you have a good runner who has NEVER strength trained will benefit greatly from ANY type of strength training. Speed work, the same. So, I’d say tCF would generally be of benefit up to the point at which it impacts training volume. I really like this site:
http://www.powerrunning.com/
Basic idea: Lift weight to get stronger, run intervals to get faster, run your race distance at your race pace. SAID. This is actually more the method I’ve used (vs say CF Endurance, which I think is quite good however) and I’ve had great success.
We can look at this in another podcast.
That is one adorable gato, I wish I wasn’t so allergic to cat dander.
RatherRipped – Your username is hilarious if it is a sonic youth reference with double meanings.
FYI – http://www.agedcareguide.com.au/news.asp?newsid=4625
The largest ever trial of fish oil supplements has found no evidence that
they offer benefits for cognitive function in older people. The Older People And omega-3 Long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids (OPAL) study investigated the effects of taking omega-3 long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acid supplements over a two year period on the cognitive function of participants aged 70-80 years. The OPAL study has been published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, was a randomised controlled trial led by Alan Dangour, Senior Lecturer at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and colleagues. After two years, those participants receiving fish oil capsules…
Hey Robb, click on the link for more details. I’m done here in Oz, and am still a believer 😉
Micael-
Pretty damn interesting. I’d be interested to read the study itself, but interesting nonetheless.
Robb, after checking there seems to be 2500 cals in a gallon of whole milk and around 2900 in a gallon of goats milk, so still not sure where you’re getting 3500 from, but I still get the point nonetheless.
You mentioned your 1000+ calorie recipes you made for CF Football, where exactly would I find these? They sound great. Thanks.
Brad-
Here is one spot:
http://www.paleobrands.com/start-here/
I will get the 1K Curry up.
My cousin was recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. She’s 38, 5’3″ 120ish lbs. Have you had any experience dealing with Fibromyalgia??? Her diet is poor (tons of grains, rice, and legumes) and her exercise is probably non-existent, yet she did beat Hodgkins lymphona in the early 90’s. I would explain the Paleo Diet to her, but I know since she is my relative, she wouldn’t listen to a word I say. So I want to have her do a phone consult with you, Mr. Authoritative Figure instead so she can get the info from a reputable source. MY OTHER QUESTION IS: Would you like her to get some blood work done before she talks to you and what should she get done?
David-
We have seen remarkable success with paleo for fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue. She will also benefit greatly form a magnesium supp like Natural Calm. See if you cna get her moving this general direction, she WILL feel better.
Robb –
My Dr started me on 30mg of Armour thyroid last week – YEAH! I’m hoping this helps. He also did the ASI test, which put me WNL on all 3 measures, however their ‘normal limits’ didn’t have a low point, just “less than or equal to 0.09” for example…so he thought mine could be low…I’m thinking it’s as a result of the low T3.
Question:
My Vit D was “40” in their normal range of 60-100 (I forgot to ask them what the units were…). They recommended 2000 I.U./day. I’ve been taking that amount for like a year. Should I be up more near 5000 I.U.s?
Thx for your help. I’ll keep you posted on the Armour cause I think I fall into the group that shows WNL on blood tests, yet I need to be mid-to-high range to function well.
Kari
Kari-
Yea, you may need to triple the vit-d to get it in the recommended range.
I like the idea that only fat can be converted into ketones (it makes things simpler to grasp!), but what’s the deal with “Ketogenic amino acids”?
Googling around I see quite a lot of stuff that seems to imply that certain amino acids can somehow become ketones.
Robb,
For what it’s worth, I believe there are 3500 calories in a gallon of chocolate milk.
Robb and Andy,
The best part of my commute is listening to you guys. Keep up the outstanding work. I have a big question for you both. Does exercise really make you lose weight? I mean, does it really? Thanks,
Pat M
Thanks for the response to my 70s big question! My mom has celiac disease, and I suspect that I do as well, so I think I’ll stick to paleo plus milk.
The only 3500 number that I’ve heard with regards to nutrition is the amount of calories in a pound of body fat. Maybe thats where you’re getting tripped up, Robb.
Love the podcasts, keep it up!
I’m almost done with Good Calories Bad Calories, and I’m toying with the idea of going zero carb for a while. If I remember correctly, taubes addressed the nutrient issue, but I don’t remember him saying anything about bone density issues on an all meat diet. I know with paleo we talk about acid/base balance, and plants are where we get the alkalinizing load.
Do you have any thoughts on this? Did I miss something? (it’s a dense read and I zoned out a few times)
Thanks,
-Mike
Robb – What is your go to vitamin/food/rest/medicine when you start feeling a cold or upper respiratory cold creeping up?
Bryan-
Sleep.
Robb,
In your first question you say that ketones cannot be produced from protein, only fat. Christian already pointed out the existence of “ketogenic” amino acids, but didn’t explain the mechanism.
Amino acids are either catabolized into pyruvate or another Krebs cycle intermediary (“glucogenic” amino acids) or into acetyl-CoA (“ketogenic” amino acids). Ketone bodies are produced from acetyl-CoA, when levels of it build up in the liver (due to gluconeogenesis pulling oxaloacetate out of the Krebs cycle). Two amino acids are solely ketogenic, Lysine and Leucine. A handful of other amino acids can be either glucogenic or ketogenic depending on how they are metabolized.
Admittedly, the vast majority of amino acids are solely glucogenic, but it is incorrect to say that ketone bodies cannot be produced from protein.
Love the podcast,
Will
Will-
True enough, my point was just if we consume enough protein, we will halt ketosis. And for a sustained ketogenic state it is not protein that plays the primary role.
Michael/Robb- I quickly checked out the complete paper for that fish oil study and went straight to the dosage: 500mg EPA + 200mg DHA for a whopping TOTAL of 700mg per day! Enough said.
Somehow they leave out those minor details in news articles 🙂
Preston-
All they noted in the abstract was a “significant increase between test subjects and controls”. Yet again, what context are they using for these dosages? Nothing based on an ancestral diet to be sure.
Robb,
I’m still struggling to drop some weight and pretty much all forms of diet (even 300-400 caloric restriction based on BMR) have failed. The only times I’ve ever lost weight easiliy is from running. Since I can’t run now I’m going to hit the elliptical 3x a week for 30-40min at a time at a low intensity.
Everyone says “oh no you’ll lose muscle doing that !!!”
How true is all of that cardio muscle burning stuff ? I’m doing 2 metcons/week and 2-3 strength sessions. Will 30-40min 3x/ week on the elliptical really rip off that much muscle if any ???
Thanks !
Regarding Fibromyalgia, in addition to getting my cousin’s diet headed in the paleo direction and taking a magnesium supp, should she start exercising right away or should she wait for inflammation and irritation to reduce before starting on a program? If she should exercise, what kind of exercise do you recommend for her? Surely she won’t be doing crossfit football like i do.
David-
EASY, non-fatiguing exercise only. Nothing to failure or exhaustion.
Bryan,
I hit a cold with a bunch of things and it always works for me. And I make sure I sleep well too, and my vitamin D levels good.
After experimenting over the years – whenever I have a cold I take this combo- and it totally hits it on the head, i.e. I start getting symptoms, and then they disappear. I’ve done this for 2 years now with success:
Oliviral
http://health.nutralife.co.nz/Product.aspx?id=84
Quercetin, vit C and bioflavanoids combo. (or just quercetin by itself)
Garlic capsules
Curcumin and ginger combo
Robb and Andy:
Interesting fact I thought I would share with you, in the newest issue of “Psychology Today” which is a very popular magazine in the Psych world, there is an article about the Paleo diet, kinda watered down but exposure nonetheless. Also, I recently took an anthropology class and in the textbook, there was a whole section devoted to the paleo diet. I, of course, was delighted to see this. I love getting the word out to the masses.
Keep up the good work guys.
Angela
Angela-
VEry cool!
Hey Robb,
We just had a world leader in all things pineal gland and melatonin speak to us in class today and I don’t think there’s anyone who’s a bigger advocate of melatonin supplementation. He takes it every day and almost views it as a possible cure all due to it’s potent anti-oxidant effects all over the body. The lack of melatonin most of us get each day could be the cause of our current health epidemic, along with hundreds of other possibilities I guess. Anyways, one thing he mentioned that I found interesting is that unlike all the other neuroendocrine harmones in our body, melatonin is the only one that is NOT inhibited through negative feedback or really any other means besides light. Therefore, taking melatonin exogenously shouldn’t have any effect on endogenous productions. He recommended supplementation to all older people since levels inherently drop as you age as well as people taking statins or other drugs that cause free radical production. Anyways, just wanted to hear your thoughts on the matter. He also mentioned that people on beta blockers produce much less melatonin since the synthesis of the hormone requires beta receptors (you probably already know this, but found it interesting anyways). Look forward to your response. Thanks!
Stephen-
News to me on the Beta-blockers, but it makes sense. Good to know on the negative feedback, it has left me reticent to use melatonin much. Cortisol impacts production very potently as well.
Great topic!
Great podcast! I loved the “how the body uses fuel” – more of that for sure.
I have less of a question and more of a request. I am putting together a “food as fuel” packet for my high school cross country runners and want to provide the actual studies and data supporting my recommendations. If you could post any great studies that may be your favorite in the notes it would be much appreciated. I am trying to get them to nix gluten/soy/sodas/etc.
I have googled but I get more articles than actual journals or studies. Thought maybe you would have a leg up on tthis.
Keep it up!
Robb,
Love the cat picture. Few things are cooler than a fellow who likes cats.
So based on the above comment about exogenous melatonin — which contradicts recommendations in “Lights Out” — would you now say a bit of melatonin is an OK sleep cheat every now and then??
I’m still looking forward to your programming recs for dancers. I’ve cut out the fruit and even the grassfed dairy, as well as the cardio, and I am leaning out again and sleeping again. I tell you, felines are smart to get all that sleep.
Cheers!
Yeah Robb exactly. Here is how they justify their dosage:
“The intervention dose was based on United Kingdom recommendations
on oily fish consumption (26), typical dietary recommendations
(27), and the recognized safe dose of n23 LC PUFAs.”
I think most people in the know on this stuff would agree that less than 1g of supplemental EPA/DHA per day aint gonna do much! Plus attempting to improve cognition by starting at age 70-79 with 2 years of very low-dose fish oil sounds like too little, too late to me anyway. Would have been interesting if they upped the dose AND measured other parameters as well like systemic inflammation, CRP, Hb1Ac, blood lipid profiles, cardiovascular health. Oh well, it wasn’t my grant.
Hi Robb
Great pod cast again quick question on sleep
My works requires me to have a really odd patten of sleep i.e i can work one night till 12am in the morning another night i can be home for 11pm. also some night i get no sleep and miss on it this then causes me to catch up so to speak and i can sleep for like 13 hours.
What would you say are the positive (if any) and negatives to this and is they anything that can help me out.
Thanks again
Dan
Love your podcast here in Portland, Oregon. Paleo since Jan. 10/10.
Especially helpful are your admonitions to not push so much when working out.
julianne – Thanks for the input. Is the Olive supp a large part of it? I usually buy all my supplements off http://www.vitacost.com and they only carry an olive leaf supplement.
Robb,
Great work per usual..and a very specific question on my part.
Short and sweet:
Father of a friend had some form of jaw/neck cancer which impinged use of his mouth.
He is luckily in remission, however has no saliva production and therefore difficulty eating certain foods.
Currently has a feeding tube installed, but IS encouraged by his MDs to try to eat anything that appeals to him AND he is able to get down due to the salivary issues.
MDs have most of his calories coming from a liquid “food” that, at first glance, looks dreadful. Corn + soy…that’s all. Called Jevity and made by Abbott
He’s down 75# and is in really rough shape.
QUESTION: Any suggestions on better liquid/liquified food sources to help this guy gain weight? I couldn’t see any reason against taking some greens + egg protein + sweet potato and creating a pretty well rounded liquified meal.
Just wanted your brief/to be taken + a grain of salt view knowing that you have no knowledge of his case and his battle w/ cancer.
Hey Robb,
Again love the podcast and am looking forward to you having Melissa and Dallas on next week. Recently had the chance to meet them, and they are great!
Came across this the other day on Hadza food preferences and differences in those preferences based on sex. Thought it was interesting and wanted to pass along in case you hadn’t seen it.
It also made me think a bit – one trend I’ve noticed recently is that women I’ve worked with seem to have a harder time than men in making the change from a high carb to a lower carb lifestyle, and often seem to be light on the protein… especially when they say the just aren’t a fan of many meats other than chicken or fish because it gives them stomach issues to eat them.
One of my thoughts for that is low stomach acid and/or an irritated gut due to grains and other stuff. I’ll often recommend just rolling with the chicken, fish, veggies and other high quality food and maybe work in some grass fed ground beef rather than a steak at even now and then as that seems to be better tolerated (for psychosomatic reasons or otherwise).
But this paper made me think that there might be some deeper underpinnings as to why that seems to be the case. Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences on the subject.
here’s the link: http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP07601616.pdf
Thanks again!
Mike
Jeff,
If you want serious dirt on neolithic foods including tons of references, a great source is Cordain’s “The Paleo Diet Newsletter” . You can buy back issues here: http://www.thepaleodiet.com/store.shtml
Also see Cordain’s published papers here: http://thepaleodiet.com/published_research/ . (More of a macro level perspective on paleo diets here, but there are references embedded in these.)
Tactically speaking, I think it may be hard to convince people about proper nutrition by presenting a few isolated studies on this or that food item. It’s probably better to first sell them on the concept that its a good idea to eat according to what we can figure out about our genetic blueprint.
Thanks much for taking the time to answer my questions. I will follow your recommendation to get a full blood workup done. My question now is, with whom? Gyno, family physician, endocrinologist? Who will best be able to address and understand my concerns? The blood work I had a couple years ago was only checked for thyroid levels as far as I know and the dr wasn’t concerned. The gastro doc I saw mentioned nothing of diet and gut health and immediately prescribed a colonoscopy; I’m holding off on that. Also been reading quite a bit on gutsense.org and wanted to know if his products are worth trying out.
Amanda-
You will have to start with your primary. If they feel it is outside their skill-set, they may recommend another option. Keep me posted!
Michael,
Regarding the fish oil study they were using supplementation of 500mg. IN other words, very little. One of the tablets I take has more EPA/DHA then that. I want to see a study where they supplement at 500mg of combined EPA/DHA per 10 pounds of body weight and then we will really know something.
Hey Rob, love the podcast, keep them coming.
We hear you talk a lot about post-workout nutrition, but, I was wondering what you would recommend as mid-workout nutrition. Specifically, I’m an avid mountaineer, and for a day of 8+ hours of strenuous climbing, I’m confused as to where I should emphasize my nutrition on the carb-fat spectrum. Whether it would be best to eat high carb to maximize glycogen stores (leave the protein/fat for morning and evening), or best to eat high fat and attempt to rely on fat as the main source of energy. I’m afraid that eating fruit all day would be too much fructose (its not easy to pack away pounds of sweet potatoes), but trail mix all day might not be the best way to stay fully energized.
Normally I eat plenty of meat and vegetables, with a couple pieces of fruit a week (and a hefty dose of chocolate at least once a week).
Thanks for the links. I just want to build up my database.
Robb,
What do you think of Vitargo2S by Gener8 as a post workout meal? A lot of endurance athletes I know take it but I am trying to stray from gluten and it contains gluten from barely. Any PWO powders you recommend? I am interested in OPT’s powder as well.
Thanks
Jeff
Robb – Andy,
Awesome stuff – I am a hardcore fan and loyal follower!
Anyway – I will try to make my question(s) short.
I am a big dude – trying to lose some weight, as well as doing paleo after some cancer I got cut out of me. That being said, I am down with doing paleo for life, but I suck at creativity when it comes to what I eat.
I have been living on grass-fed beef, natural chicken sausage, etc. and a huge bag of salad every day – I also have been eating nuts.
I am wondering… if eating a lot of nuts is not that great (omega 6 issues), but fruit raises insulin levels – if you had to pick a steady “go to” food to supplement my meat and veggies – would you choose fruit or nuts (and why)?
also…
I have been taking the Now digestive enzymes you recommend, but I am having some issues with them… mainly that I have yet to “feel” the warmth/burn, and I am now at about 10 pills per meal – is this common?
I have tried taking them before, during, and after meals, but still no warmth/burn – It seems a bit crazy that I am taking so many, but will continue to jack up the number of pills taken per meal with your blessing!
Thanks Guys – Seriously.
-Dave
Robb,
Speaking of muscle soreness! What are your thoughts on wobenzym? Garden of Life Wobenzym N says you need to take 3 pills twice a day to dose it. Do you think it would work for DOMS? What kind of dosage would you recommend to elicit a positive response?
Chad-
It might help a little, it’s good for other stuff too.
Bryan,
Yes I think the olive leaf extract is a big part of it. That particular supplement Oliviral works for several people I have talked to. Prior to that I just used quercetin by itself and that worked quite well.
I had microdiscectomy surgery last week and they gave me 3 rounds of antibiotics to prevent infection. Now I’m having digestive issues. Nothing is coming out solid. I was also pounding about 6 5/500mg Vicodin for weeks before surgery and a few days after but I’m off it now. I take 9 2000 iu vit. d3 caps a day and liquid nordic naturals fish oil. Maybe I’m ingesting too much fish oil but I’m thinking the antibiotics zapped my gut flora. I’m going out to pick up iFlora tomorrow. It tested #1 on consumerlab.com and I don’t have any reason to believe that I am hypochloridic so I don’t think I need the super enzymes. I think it’s kind of messed up that they didn’t tell me to take something for my gut flora after the antibiotics. Do antibiotics just affect some people differently?
Marshall-
Yep, there is variability in medications in all people, and in what type of flora you roll with. S. Boulardi is a goody to supplement your plan.
Hi Rob,
Learning lots, thanks for the podcasts. I have a question about omega 3’s and 6’s. From what I’ve read, they are both absorbed by the same receptor, and omega 6 “outcompetes” the omega 3’s – is this true? And if so, does it make sense to try to consume your omega 3’s (fish oil) at a time when you are not eating omega 6’s?
I’m not trying to making eating too much of a science experiment, but I do want to make the most of the choices I make.
Thanks,
Karen
Karen-
Just avoid short n-6’s like in seed oils, nuts, corn/soy oil. that’s your biggest bang for your efforts. Add a little fish oil, sleep etc and you are good to go.
Hey Robb,
I know in the past you have harped on about nutritional courses being rubbish and propagating the food pyramid etc, but I’m doing a Personal Trainers course in Australia (Cert IV in Fitness) and the nutrition part has actually been quite good. They stress unprocessed food, regulating insulin, PWO strategies, mentioned atkins and zone, and gave quite a good wrap up for the paleo diet. They still teach some things you wouldn’t agree on and contradict themselves a bit, but I think this may be a sign that the tides are changing, so I thought you might be happy to hear that.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Jason-
that’s legit, the program we are developing with Prof. Cordain will help to fill that gap here as well. Hopefully we can meet when we get out your way.
Robb,
I started Paleo almost 4 weeks ago and have not slipped a lick. My question is about “infectious” rosacea (red bumps not just redness of the face). In the first 2 weeks eating paleo my rosacea almost disappeared and then in the 3rd week it showed up again worse than it has ever been and is creeping to parts of my face it has never been before. Wondering is this could be a deeper detoxification or something else. It is quite discouraging since it was almost cleared up in the first two weeks.
I think Andy missed the veiled reference when you described the themes in the documentary “Overnight.”
Hey Robb and Andy-Love the podcast and information! Shout out to Jason at Cross Fit Epic who turned me onto your info!
Quick question: When I watch videos in the CF Journal all the top athletes look exhausted all the time. (Hackenbruk, Khalipa among others, though Miko is probably the worst looking one) They have a sort of glassy eyed look and they seem like they are holding themselves up with their arms when they are standing up. They also have massive dark circles under their eyes.
Do you think this is a symptom of overtraining or is it overwork from working out hard and also running a box? I know you’ve spent a lot of time talking about fatigue and overtraining and I’ve noticed improvement when I’ve cut back, ie, stopping the WODs when my job is stressful or vice versa so as not to tax the body too much in it’s response to stress, among other things. Maybe I’m the only one noticing this when I watch those videos?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts.
Just went to the doctors hoping to get some bloodwork done but she wouldn’t do any because everything was normal when I had it done last year.
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Robb,
First- Your man crush Jim Wendler has a good interview over at Rips Site.
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/starting_strength_series_–_jim_wendler/
Second- When does the 70s porn music that I e-mailed you get incorporated in the intro?
Ben-
1-Thanks!
2-Working on it!
Hi guys
So I bought light out sleep sugar and survial. Am still having major true sleep mainly just the act of falling asleep someone mentioned Magnesium can anyone remember if this is mentioned in a pod cast once I get my money sorted am going to supplement on my omega vit d Magnesium and gluecosimine.
As for my paleo eatting is going well I feel lighter and seem to be slowly losing my fat belly.
Thanks again
Dan
Dany-
Natural Calm, which is mag citrate, vit d about 5,000iu. Glucosamine, can wait till you are 70!
Here the magnez
http://www.healthspan.co.uk/bone-health/magnesium/productdetail-p334-c158.aspx
vit d
http://www.healthspan.co.uk/vitamins/vitamin-d/productdetail-p414-c147.aspx
omega 3
http://www.healthspan.co.uk/omega-3/omega-3-liquid/productdetail-p3196675-c151.aspx
glucosimine
http://www.healthspan.co.uk/chondroitin/glucosamine-optiflex-chondroitin-liquid/productdetail-p279-c144.aspx
what’s your views?
Danny-
I stopped after magnesium and vit-d. The magnesium is oxide, which is crap (marble actually) and the vit-d is a tiny dosage. I think you can find better.
hey robb quick question for you,
I am currently 165-170 at probably 6% bf, with snatch at 185#, c&J around 240, DL at 405. Anyways, I want to get my snatch up to 200# and my c&j up to 275 and would like to pack on some mass to do it while staying lean. I have been following greg everett’s catalyst programming followed by short 5-10 minute crossfit type metcons MWF and filling in with a few 10-20 minute WODS on the other days. I am planning on keeping with my paleo diet but adding 1/2 GOMAD. Do you think that is proper programming/ diet for gaining some muscle mass and increasing strength, all while staying relatively lean? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
Joey-
Sounds legit to me, keep me posted on that and excellent numbers!
Hey Robb, I hear you and Andy talk all about removing nuts from your diet in favor for other (coconut milk, Oils, etc..) sources. What’s the reasoning? And can I get a link?
Evan-
reducing n-6 fats that tend to be high in nuts.
Hey Robb, a nice little article/study to tie in your Vitamin D recommendations
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/05/03/vitamin-d-pregnancy.html
Andy, what can I say, you are a better man than I (no coffee and sitting through Boondocks Saints 2).
Thanks Tony, nice find!
What an attractive pussy you have, Rob
Egads Fellows!
I’ve been doing the Paleo + Dairy as prescribed by Crossfit Football with great results. I came across this very short article about milk and calcium entitled “Milk, Your Worst Source of Calcium.” Is all this true? http://www.antiaginglifeextension.com/health_matters_minutes/articles/milk.asp?a=1563&c=&p=
David-
That article is not terrible, but it has serious caveats for me.
Had blood work done with a new GP. Thyroid was WNL, but cholesterol was a surprising 297. 197 LDL, 93 HDL. And his main concern was that my white blood cell count was low (2.6). He is having me come in for further testing tomorrow including a chest xray and more blood tests. He’s looking for mono or lupus…don’t have any symptoms of those other than general fatigue. Thoughts???
Amanda-
Weird. Will think on this.
Robb and Andy,
Around the 25 minute mark you mentioned something about “strategic de-conditioning and hypertrophy specific training” on t-nation (I think – I was driving while listening to the podcast). I’m not sure if this is what you were talking about, but I’ve had decent success (bench 225lbs x 5 and parallel squat 275lbs x 5) following the training principles on: http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/. I think this is what you were referring to. It’s geared towards hypertrophy, but the strength gains are there.
Also: I’ve been listening to the podcasts on my iPhone. The play speed is adjustable, so I listen to it twice as fast.
I really enjoyed your book. The next edition should definitely have an index. Oh, and 5 fries!
Thanks,
Clayton
Thanks Clayton!
Thank you, very useful. I wasnt actually a big fan of Spinach for many years (ok, that’s a total lie, I hated the stuff), but after shacking up with a vegan I kind of had to get used to it, and have slowly come to totally love the stuff. Spinach curry is now my absolute favouritest! I even found adedicated spinach recipes website which is my new favourite site now, you should take a look!