The Paleo Solution – Episode 113

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Topics:

  1. [2:00] Paleo Poop
  2. [8:22] Becoming a Special Operations Soldier
  3. [14:49] Vitamin K and Newborns
  4. [19:32] Best Supplement Brands
  5. [23:58] Fragile Omega-3 Conundrum
  6. [27:47] Psychological Effects of Hunting vs. Killing Domesticated Animals
  7. [34:41] Melanoma and Autoimmunity
  8. [42:52] Ski Conditioning and the Bosu Ball

Questions:

1. Paleo Poop

Emily says:

Hi Robb, love the podcast have been listening for a few weeks and have learnt a lot so far!

My question today is about my poop. yes you’ll probably laugh but I want to work something out. My problem is I don’t go regularly.  And sometimes when I do go, it isn’t necessarily easy so to speak. I am wondering what nutrients/foods I will need to help my bowel movements etc.

Little bit of background I am 22yrs old 175cm tall and weight 55kgs or 56kgs of a night hahaha. I train 4-5 times a week in cross fit and general walking and bike riding for leisure.

I have been eating paleo (very strict, have had one huge cheat meal a few weeks ago and it made me feel horrible! and that yes did make me ‘go’) I have been eating paleo for over two months absolutely love the way I feel, skin improved energy levels amazing and my strength/fitness gains etc in the gym have been great also.

A typical day of food for me would be eggs or meat and some vegetables for breakfast maybe some pumpkin/sweet potato with that, lunch similar salmon or chicken/pork beef or a big salad with chicken breast, and dinner usually typical meat and three veg. for snacks i have almonds, macadamias, walnuts pecans some dark choc occasionally and on most days 1-2 pieces of fruit(apple,berries,banana) however I have been kinda restrictive on the fruit as confused with the ‘sugar’ deal associated with fruit consumption (please clear that up for me) I sprinkle coconut flakes onto salads and veggies and cook with coconut oil to pan fry meats/veggies.

I really hope you can help me out to improve it as I have been slightly worried ! haha I would love an email if this question can’t make it onto the fabulous podcast! cheers Emily

 

2. Becoming a Special Operations Soldier

Jonas says:

Hey Robb

I am trying to find the best way to implement a Paleo’ish diet/lifestyle in my upcoming endeavor of becoming an elite soldier (the danish Jaegerkorpset, similar to Delta/SEAL).

Right now i am training hard and enjoying a lot of benefits from Paleo but i got some upcoming challenges.

I wan’t to accelerate through out the 4 month course/selection (and afterwards – i don’t want to burn out) but as you can imagine i don’t have much to say about food, sleep etc. in all 5 weekdays (i won’t be eating or sleeping all that much ;)). Allmost every weekend i got and 48 hours window to do as much for my recovery and health as possible, i might have the possibility of bringing some snacks but it is very restricted and much of the time were staying in the field without the possibility of bringing anything.

My question is:

How should i tailor my weekend to get as much as possible out of my 48 hours?

What can i bring to help myself during the week (snacks, shakes etc.)?

Hope you can help, btw love the site and the podcasts :)

Kind regards

3. Vitamin K and Newborns

J. Dubb says:

Robb,

What are your thoughts on administration of vitamin K to newborns to stimulate the production of clotting factors?

Would an infant of a paleo mother be less likely to require this injection? Is there an evolutionary advantage of being born with an immature cascade?

Thanks JDub.

4. Supplement brands

Judah says:

Rob and Greg

Love the show.  CrossFit Owner/Coach who has listened intently to your discussions about effective and safe programming and it has changed a lot of what we do at our box.  I read your post recently about Low T in males, and you mention supplementation.  Chris Kresser talks about Probiotic Supplementation for maintaining healthy gut.  There are many potential supplement brands out there, any brands in particular that you view as heads over heals better than the competition.

Thanks Much


5. The Fragile Omega-3 Conundrum

Amy says:

Hehheh…sounds like an episode of The Big Bang Theory, huh?

Hey Robb and Greg,

Quick question for you:

I know that n-3 fats are very fragile — susceptible to oxidation, rancidity, etc. That’s why we’re not supposed to heat them, and it’s best to keep things like walnuts in the fridge or freezer. So what’s the deal with cooking actual fish? Does cooking damage the n-3s, or is there something inherently protective in the fish as a whole package/whole food that is *not* in isolated fish oils?

Just curious, ‘cuz I eat a lot of canned salmon, tuna, sardines, and mackerel. They’re cheap, handy sources of good protein, but I’ve started to wonder if I’m actually getting as much n-3 as I think I am if they’ve been heated beyond recognition in the canning process.

Thanks guys! And Robb — feel free to “geek out” on the chemistry if necessary. I can take it!

6. Psychological effects of hunting vs. killing domesticated animals

Jennifer says:

Dear Robb and Greg,

I started eating paleo a few months ago, after being vegetarian and later vegan for a few years, and I have been contemplating the issue of killing/eating domesticated animals.

I grew up on a cattle ranch in Texas, and we raised most of our food ourselves, hunted regularly, and of course bought some things as well. Despite the romanticization of the whole family farm/ranch scenario among a lot of paleo eaters/slow foodies/greens etc., I found the experience of killing animals for food one of the most traumatic aspects of my childhood. I had the typical problem of viewing the animals more as pets than food sources, despite knowing better–I bottle fed the orphaned calves, cuddled the baby chicks, laughed as the goats turned backflips off of fallen trees–and then later cried my eyes out when I had to kill and eat them. That pain was a big part of what led me to become vegetarian in the first place.

However, I switched from vegan to paleo a few months ago. (You convinced me with science, but don’t feel too smug. My best friend, an evolutionary biologist, one said that, taking into account my scientific knowledge and skills, he could probably convince me the universe was made of bananas. What can I say, I’m just an English major.) Anyway, after beginning to eat meat again, I decided I wasn’t going to hide from that experience–if I didn’t have the guts to kill my food, I by god didn’t deserve to eat it, either.

The interesting part of the whole thing (to me, at least) occurred when I began to gravitate toward hunting more and more of my meat. While I never find killing an animal a comfortable experience (nor do I want to), there is a big difference for me between hunting a wild animal and killing one that has lived with and depended on me. This has led me to wonder about the psychological effects of getting our meat from domesticated animals. We talk all the time in the paleo crowd about the detrimental effects of the advent of agriculture with regard to grains etc., but I’ve never heard anyone address the emotional effects of killing domesticated animals versus hunting, despite the fact that this was also a big change from the way our ancestors lived for millions of years.

Coming out of the vegan camp, I am used to people arguing that violence toward animals and humans are connected and that killing animals is emotionally damaging. I was always very sympathetic to that stance, since I could not imagine that the desensitization and emotional hardening that I went through as a child in order to be able to slaughter our animals could be good for kids (or adults, for that matter). Now I am becoming increasingly convinced that the emotional damage stems more from the circumstances of domestication (killing a creature with whom you have lived in close quarters and formed a relationship of a sorts) rather than from the killing itself. Just wanted to get your thoughts on this and hoped it might be an interesting topic to throw out there on the podcast for the rest of the paleo community to consider and weigh in on. Feel free to ignore me if you disagree!

Thanks for all you do,

 

7. Melanoma and Autoimmunity could you explain more?
Jackie says:
Message Body:
Hi Robb,

I have strived for the paleo life style for about a year. I love your podcasts and I love your politics and I am a female- talk about it all you want as far as I am concerned.

This weeks podcast and one a few weeks earlier mentioned that melanoma may be related to autoimmunity and Transglutaminase. I tried to research on my own and came across an article “Implications of tissue transglutaminase expression in malignant melanoma” Way over my head. I am wondering about it because of my personal history.

I have always had random and rare “attacks” which of course after having my appendix and gall bladder removed (had one huge stone that was incidently found by ultrasound in my mid 20’s)seem to be resolved. The same year the gall bladder was removed at age 31 I was diagnosed with malignant melanoma which fortunately was in its earliest stages and was excised completely. Thankfully I am very vain and didn’t think that black mole would look good with my strapless gown. :)

My mother died of complications of MS and my paternal grandfather had severe Rheumatiod arthritis so I have significant family hx of autoimmunity. My questions are this:

In your opinion how vital is it for someone with past history of melanoma to avoid the sun and/or gluten? I love the sun living Washington state I try to get it when I can, and I know everyone should avoid gluten however NO ONE in my family is on board with gluten free anything believing it to be a fad. I have found it easier to just avoid the big stuff like bread but not the “hidden sources” like seasonings etc.

Should someone with a hx of melanoma follow the autoimmune protocol? (I hope not – but obviously would do anything in my power to avoid my kids losing their mom like I did).

If nothing else could you just explain that article in english?? I have a medical background but nothing extensive enough to understand that.

Lastly – my husband and other family don’t understand the paleo movement nor the science behind it. Frankly they think it is just the next fad diet and could care less because they are not overweight and are healthy. My husband is supportive of me but I can’t get him to read your book. Are there any video resources
? I think I could trap him in a room for an hour or two…

Sorry for all the questions. If you could address any of them at all I would be so grateful.

Thanks for all that you do.

8. Ski conditioning and the bosu ball

Chad says:

Hi Robb and Greg,

Like many, I have listened to all of your pod casts and have gotten a great deal of information on paleo living and strength and conditioning.  Now that I have gotten the sucking up out the way I will get to the nitty gritty-ski conditioning.  I live in a Colorado ski town where every gym has a ski conditioning class.  These classes typically run around an hour and consist of some strength, balance, and cardio work.  Every time I watch these classes they ALWAYS use the greatest invention to strength and conditioning-(drum Roll)-The bosu ball!!!!! The strength portion is always body weight movements (lunges, push ups, sit ups and some variations of squatting-mind you not a full squat as that would hurt your knees!!).  Balance-All of the balance exercises are done in a static position-Slow.  For example, one foot balancing on the bosu ball while in a ¾ squat while other foot is one top of a swiss ball slowly moving it side to side and front to back (as the instructor says “engage your core”).  Another exercise that seems to be a favorite is laterally jumping from one bosu ball to another as if this is to simulate skiing in a down hill fashion.  At times I’ve seen a slack line being used to try to develop balance.  I also forgot to mention that the majority of population trains for skiing in the summer time by going on long mountain bike rides.  As they believe that this will build leg strength and give them the cardio base.

Correct me if I’m wrong but downhill skiing is power sport, period.  Your typical run lasts under 3 minutes.  Nothing about skiing is done in a slow controlled manner.  It is super fast and explosive.  Since the sport demands power and strength, wouldn’t it be prudent to train in the same fashion?

If you look at a basic ski turn you start off eccentrically loading your hips, knees and ankles then when ending the turn by concentrically unloading your ankles, hips and knees.  This sounds like squatting to me.  I will get to my question (s).  Does this bosu ball deal really have any benefits?  Doesn’t training balance is a super slow controlled motion tend to fuck up the pathways to explosive balance?  Would it be more beneficial to develop athletic ability in the gym and work on the sport specific movements on the slopes?  Maybe I’m a biased dick but I think for the demands of downhill skiing an Oly/strength program would be far more effective than riding your bike (not that it is a bad thing) and attending some ____ class 2 months prior to the season.  Your thoughts would be appreciated…. Thx

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  1. CanadianArcticPaleo
    January 3, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    The malignant melanoma question is a good one. There was a study once that found increased melanoma cell resistance to drug therapies as a result of increased TG2 expression in tissue. When you think of increased gliadin in the body correlated with increased levels of transglutaminase in the brain….a paleo diet is the obvious non invasive preventative measure!

  2. Tom
    January 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    For Jackie…

    My family wasn’t on board with my diet as well. However, I just ignored the foods on the table and made sure I ate only the Paleo specific foods that were available. We never cleared out the cabinets of non-paleo foods but I had enough discipline to not indulge.

    When my blood pressure and cholesterol came back in normal ranges and I lost 17 pounds after the first 90 days they began to take notice. Now my family eats mostly paleo and I have won the argument by example. I’m still working on them with Robb’s insight and I throw some science their way once in a while.

    I would say, “Lead By Example”, you might get the results you hope for.

    Tom

    • Maryann
      January 5, 2012 at 7:19 am

      I’m with you Tom. My family still wants to eat macaroni and cheese from a box, and I really don’t give a &*^%. They are all adults and can make these decisions for themselves.
      However, I find it hard to understand how they look at me and don’t believe Paleo works. I am 40 pounds lighter, still making improvements in athletic ability and strength, and my body composition continues to improve. My one year Paleoversary is coming up on January 18, and I only see greater things down the road!
      To Jackie: Please go all in for a month and you will see a significant improvement in how you feel. Robb is right. This stuff works.
      :D Maryann

  3. Brandon
    January 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    I’ve got a similar problem as the first question, I’m an infrequent pooper. As in once every 2-3 days. My ND has recommended magnesium glycinate and probiotics until things smooth out.

    • matthk
      January 23, 2012 at 1:52 am

      All the current writing I’ve read on pooping regularity states that there no such thing as a
      definitive number of poops per day or even week. The notion that daily pooping is ‘good’
      seems to be baseless bunk.

      The current science suggests that the ‘normal’ range is anything from twice per day to
      once every week. It all depends on your system. That being said, if your regularity is
      off after changing diets, I’d see that as simply part of the adjustment period. I was
      crapping painful concrete blocks after going Paleo/slow-carb (when I COULD go) and
      found that eating more fat and letting my body adjust to the new eating regime worked
      best for me.

      As for the enemaniacs – I feel there’s MUCH more harm than good that can come
      from enemas. I’d only ever consider one if I’d been blocked completely for weeks.
      cheers, matthk

      • Stephanie
        April 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm

        Matt, I read that about pooping too but I think this is probably another one of those types of things similar to where doctors don’t think that diet has anything to do with overall health. I think in general most things that have always been considered ‘unnatural’ occurrences in humans or whatever, are now considered ‘normal’ by modern medicine. I can’t imagine that not pooping for 2-3+ days could be healthy for the body.

  4. Tane
    January 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    For Jonas:
    If I may offer some advice to add to that of Robb and Greg (I have a small amount of experience in this sort of thing).
    -Arrive at the start of the course:(In the order of importance)
    1) Healthy (= uninjured + not sick)
    2) Rested (= not overtrained and having had plenty of sleep)
    3) Fit (= Having reached/exceeded the required standards recently)
    – Plan your buildup to finish about 4 weeks before the start of the course. In the 4 weeks directly before the start of the course you should ramp down. If you aren’t fit enough one month before the course, training like a madman just before it starts isn’t going to help- you are just turning a 4 month course into a 5 month course. Focus on eating, sleeping, some light training and making sure the rest of your life is in order e.g. financial, family, friends etc: you don’t need any extra distractions once you start.
    – Don’t freak out in the first couple of days. As soon as you arrive, you will start comparing yourself to all the other guys on the course (which is natural- everyone will be doing it). There will be some sort of physical testing and there will be guys who perform at an incredibly high level. One or two of them will be in the top 1% of athletic ability and are naturally brilliant and the rest have arrived at the course at their physical peak and will fall by the wayside through injury or exhaustion.
    – As Robb said, only worry about the thing you are doing now. Don’t talk yourself out of the course by worrying about things that might happen tomorrow or next week.
    – Remember: the instructors can make your life miserable but they can’t take away your birthday or make you pregnant.

  5. Kevin Cann
    January 4, 2012 at 4:09 am

    My M.S. is in strength and conditioning and the first rule as a strength coach when choosing exercises is risk and reward. The jumping back and forth on BOSU balls has way more risk then reward. To deccelerate laterally with a high force requires an immense amount of strength in the hip abductors. All it will take is a little fatigue or a weak glute medius/minimus and kiss your ACL goodbye. Landing improperly can also yield a major knee or ankle injury all of which will keep you sidelined the whole winter. Greg was on the money with adding unilateral training to your program. You should also be assessed for inefficiencies in movement patterns and have those corrected first to prevent injuries while skiing.

  6. Evert
    January 4, 2012 at 4:19 am

    [2:00] Paleo Poop
    Sometimes it helps to eat more fats and oils.

    • Tom
      January 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm

      Ensuring good hydration was not addressed, but would seem to be an important prerequisite.

  7. Niall
    January 4, 2012 at 5:02 am

    Please let us know which companies offer free handjobs with their products so I can order a shitload! :P

  8. ehayes
    January 4, 2012 at 10:46 am

    The bosu ball answer was classic. About hip activation and unilateral stuff, I like Bret Contreras’ article on Tnation, dispelling the glute myth and rotary stability. Very simple exercises for hip activation and the unilateral stuff that is so important for agility.

  9. AC
    January 4, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Paleo Poop.

    Have been having the same problem. Tried it all, magnesium (1-2g), coconut oil, lots of fats, coffee, water, sauerkraut, probiotics. I do hold my stress in my stomach, but dont feel overly stressed but its there. I have been using medical enema kits (2L of water) of late to get things cleaned out because it could be a week before I see a stool. I have been having some low hormones and have read up on the link between low progesterone and constipation. Might want to look into this.

  10. Melisa
    January 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Although I am new to Paleo, I am old hat at what the gentleman in question #7 is talking about in several regards.
    First, I too come from a background of hunting and eating what was brought home. I can remember several times of spitting shot out of a mouthful of pheasant or rabbit. Too, my parents owned a poultry slaughter when I was growing up and through my college years. We raised chickens in our barn for slaughter as well, and probably ate chicken, rabbit or pheasant (which we would have butchered) 3-4 times a week. Later, I became a USDA meat inspector which brings a whole new spin. I degress…
    I believe that if we could hunt 100% of our meat, my family would eat only wild game,wild birds and any fish we could catch. My husband does enjoy hunting–not for the killing, but for the act of providing directly for his family and for the challenge that creates. But with 4 boys, my husband and I, this is next to impossible.
    While I can understand being sensitive towards the plight of the animals that supply our food, I feel the problem comes from humanizing animals. Yes, they are intelligent. Any farmer that’s been around a group of animals for a period of time will tell you that different animals have different personalities. I get that. But animals, in my opinion, are on this earth to provide food for each other. While some feel that’s cruel, I feel it’s reality. And I don’t think humans are exempt from this. There is no reason for a big cat, for example, to not think of a human as food. When people begin to forget that, or never learn it to begin with, they disassociate themselves from the fact that animals=meat.
    I don’t think it’s right to raise animals in confinements. I feel meat animals should be treated with care and respect. We have taught out children that every time we eat meat, an animal has given it’s life so we can have ours. It’s a fact of life.

    • ssexton
      January 5, 2012 at 8:04 am

      I agree 100%. My family eats only wild deer, wild hog, wild fish, wild rabbit or beef we raise ourselves. I have an 8 year old son. He shot his first deer last year and was very proud to “provide” for the family. But before this went 7 years of my husband and I teaching him the eithics behind hunting responsibly — what animals to harvest, only kill what we eat, only hunt/trap if our freezer is low, etc.

      Our son is growing up surrounded by goats and cows. As much as we enjoy caring for the animals, and even give them names, the distinction was always clear to our son that these raised animals were for profit (proceeds go into his college fund) or for food. They were clearly put into the “non-pet” category.

      We have had several discussions about why other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs while we do not them here in the States. My answer to him has always been that we as a society place these animals into the “pet” category and therefore bond with them and that makes it taboo to then later eat them.

      This is his first year raising pigs for the 4h Stock Show. He has clearly bonded with them, and he placed them into the “pet” category. So at the end of livestock project, we will not be butchering them. Instead, we have made arrangements with a local breeder to purchase them.

      My father always joked that his vegetables came from Libby’s, and in my household growing up it did. My son knows better. He knows where his meat comes from because we butchered it and used every part of the animal we could. He knows where his vegetables come from because he helped grow them with his grandfather in the field.

      I feel this way of life gives my son a clearer understanding of our place in nature and how everything is tied together.

  11. Heather
    January 4, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    For people who don’t poop well, even the good suggestions in this podcast, like magnesium, probiotics, etc. These people likely have gut dysbiosis…

    However, if someone has just changed their diet, constipation can be a side effect. If the good suggestions in this podcast don’t help, doing colon cleansing, like a home enema or colema can help get through the initial detox.

    How often a person should poop…the real reason I wrote in is because of this question that came up. For people who’ve had severe gut dysbiosis and constipation, the answer is – whenever you start to feel crappy. Constipation affects mood and behavior. If your mood and behavior is affected by constipation, even if it’s just been one day of not pooping — OR — if your gut feels like it has “foggy brain” (causing lots of cravings and bad food choices that you feel you can’t control), then you can be sure you are constipated and would benefit from colon cleansing. Another symptom is trouble sleeping. For some people with guy dysbiosis causing constipation, sleep becomes problematic when constipated. A colon cleanse often means a much better night’s sleep.

    Your body is the BEST indicator of when you’re constipated, not guidelines from doctors (or anyone else). Listen to your body, moods, sleep cycle, etc. and let that be your guide.

  12. Cam macLellan
    January 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Hi all just seen this on a label, “Each production run is sampled and tested to confirm gluten levels do not exceed 20 PPM.” What does this mean? Gluten is gluten right? weather it is 20ppm or 500,000ppm? Off the label of a gluten free snack….

    • leoncaruthers
      January 6, 2012 at 8:53 am

      It means they tested it with what’s basically lab equipment and found 0 on something with a sensitivity to 20ppm. If they make anything with in the same factory (or even if the workers just eat sandwiches for lunch), there’s a chance of contamination. The note is there to inform you that they could not detect any gluten within the limits of their testing device.

      I used to test testing equipment, believe me when I say that testing to 20 ppm for a protein is hard.

  13. John Calhoun
    January 4, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    OK.. I give up. What are the mystery words that cause all the mayhem? Anyone?

    • Pooka
      January 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm

      Yes, this is driving me crazy!

  14. Lance Strish
    January 7, 2012 at 11:40 am

    re: pooping every 2day “ok”

    What about DrGreger’s stool scale and diverticulosis (BrockLesnar had diverticulitis) video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXh9tPbnQU8 and hyperlipid replies “#5″ all proud http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2010/07/ppt-and-unreported-side-effects.html?showComment=1279709427070#c5249893426279630526

    Saw this on http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=4354 “Seth Roberts also linked to a paper showing that high-protein diets are bad for the colon, due to toxic protein metabolites.” (also links huntgatherlove MelissaMcEwen blogpost, which links to PDF dissertation: http://arno.unimaas.nl/show.cgi?fid=16226)
    “Short-chain fatty acids (SCFA), primarily acetate, propionate and butyrate, are
    organic acids produced within the intestinal lumen by bacterial fermentation of
    mainly undigested dietary carbohydrates, but also in a minor part by dietary and
    endogenous proteins, such as mucus, and sloughed epithelial cells.1

  15. Samuli Pahalahti
    January 7, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    1. Glucose deficiency can be also a reason why there might be problems with pooping: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1077

    So you could try adding some rice to your diet for a while and see if it helps.

    2. I would definitely try a beef jerky as a snack. You’ll probably need some good protein for recovering physical stress. Maybe some coconut oil also, if you can carry it conveniently. It will give some energy.

    7. Loren Cordain has interesting video about paleo and autoimmune disease. Maybe your husband could watch it and learn something: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8901290975296745403

  16. Nick
    January 9, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Not Poliquin brand supplements?

  17. Theresa
    January 10, 2012 at 7:32 am

    As to the Vitamin K shot… I researched this also before my last baby… One thing you can do is take a vitamin k supplement for the first couple of weeks of nursing.. It will get a low dose to the baby, all that they need.. Much better than the chemicals in the vaccine & a huge dose of vitamin k to a tiny newborn system. Same thing with the Hep B shot they give in the hospital.. Babies don’t need it unless mom/dad/close family member has it.

  18. Shalali Infante
    January 13, 2012 at 10:32 am

    On the Vitamin K for newborns, the practice really got started when they started circumcision at birth. If they didn’t have the vitamin K, the baby boys would bleed to death. In ancient time (even talked about in the bible) the practice of circumcision was done after then 10th day of life when the baby starts to produce its own vitamin K. There are a minuscule amount of babies born with the brain hemorrhage problem, but the real reason every baby (unless the parents refuse – like we did) gets vitamin K at birth is so that baby boys can be circumcised at birth without bleeding to death.

  19. Shalali Infante
    January 13, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I farm and raise all of our meat (or trade with a farmer friend for the lamb that I don’t raise). We raise, beef, goat, hogs, chickens, and turkeys as well as having 3 milk cows. I don’t emotionally distance myself from my butcher animals. I want to make sure their life and their death is a stress free as possible. If I don’t interact with them in life, then when I get close to them to slaughter them, they will be stressed out; and I don’t want their dying to be stressful. We do name all the piglets that are going to be butchered, Bacon, and the other animals that are for eating things like Lunch, Dinner, Sir Loin, Yum-Yum, NY Strip, et cetera. We do that to remind ourselves their purpose. When I raise our animals to live as nature intended to the extent that I can, as a farmer, I have no problems slaughtering them to feed my family. I do kneel beside them as they are dying and whisper into their ear the heartfelt thanks and gratitude I have for their sacrifice- I am so incredibly indebted to them.

    As far as children, if they see it from birth and are a part of it, I have seen only positive responses. I understand the person who wrote in the question didn’t have that experience, and I’m sorry for it. Our kids and many of our friends’ kids have been part of our slaughtering and butchering process and they seem to have a real understanding of where food comes from and what it means to eat meat. If you eat meat, something has to die.

    The other thing that makes it not disturbing to me is that I don’t anthropomorphise animals. They do not have the same reactions to pain, and they don’t have the same reactions to death. I’ve had the cows lined up eating the treats we put out to facilitate slaughter. When one of them is shot and goes down, be it offspring or a herd mate, the others will go sniff it, and then go back to eating the treats. I’m not trying to say the won’t miss or mourn in their own way, but they absolutely do not have the human experience and reactions to death that we do.

  20. Stephanie
    April 12, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    So, late to the game but I’m catching up on these podcasts. The whole first part about paleo poop had me rolling on the floor laughing. Why is poop so funny? I’m wondering if you could write up or talk about or point me in the direction of anything about that biofeedback you did with your traveling companion? I am very Type A and highly wound (though less so than I used to be), I tend to not poop anytime I’m out of my usual routine, and even in my routine I only go ever 2-3 days. Thanks!

    • Robb Wolf
      April 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      I just taught him some breathing techniques. 4 count in through nose, 8 count out through mouth. Try to make both longer as you go. it works, and yes, poo IS funny!

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