Back with Episode 64 of the podcast – Enjoy!!!
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Show Topics:
- Shakes in the morning
- The Warrior Diet
- Stomach Problems
- Protein Sparing Modified Fasts
- I Crave Diary
- Yam Flour
- Velocity Diet
- Alcohol, Fat Loss, & Muscle
- Feeding the World Via Paleo
- Paleo as a Reenactment
- Calories to gain mass
- Melanoma & Tanning
- Gluten Free Beer / Okra / Sleeping 7 Hours / Butter / Kicking Caffeine
Show Notes – The_Paleo_Solution_Episode_64
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The audio this week is demonic. Is this just a tech glitch on my end? Is there anyway to clear it up?
sounds ok on my end.. only half way thru it
oohh yea there it is..
(Sorry! “It’s not you, it’s me.” Clear now.)
I googled the “least harm principle” and get a message that says: “this article is temporarily offline”. Couldn’t help but wonder if it is related to the death threats!
You never know but I suspect it was just lack of google-fu!
http://www.springerlink.com/content/r1277l2428v10637/
If I’m correct, this will cost you EUR 34,=. As an alternative you could buy The Vegetarian Myth, written by Lierre Keith. She explains how all the agricultural destructive powers work. Also there are a lot of free videos and podcast with Lierre available.
You are right! 🙂 And it’s back on this site as well:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/972951/posts
BTW, I’ve listened to your reply to feeding the world via Paleo 3 times now. I am trying to memorize it.
KH, the audio gets jacked on Andy’s end at least one point in each podcast it seems. Nothing can be done if they’re recording the conversation on the same channel.
I think you guys finally came up with your own T-shirt idea:
Cows Eat Grass.
How ’bout
Cows eat grass…
Evander, you can eat five fries.
How about?
Beware the Five Fry Eating Religious Vegan CFHQ Employee from Iowa
how about “I Ate Six Fries”
Excellent answer to the “feeding the world” question, I’ve been wondering about that myself. Unfortunately it looks like corn and industrial agriculture are going to end up ruining the world, despite grass-fed beef being the single most sustainable way to produce food. That just depresses me.
Show Topics:
Shakes in the morning 6.35
The Warrior Diet 10.11
Stomach Problems 15.17
Protein Sparing Modified Fasts 20.21
I Crave Diary 26.10
Yam Flour 30.18
Velocity Diet 31.38
Alcohol, Fat Loss, & Muscle 34.46
Feeding the World Via Paleo 37.20
Paleo as a Reenactment 46.55
Calories to gain mass 50.19
Melanoma & Tanning 54.51
Gluten Free Beer / Okra / Sleeping 7 Hours / Butter / Kicking Caffeine
57.29/59.19/59.36/59.56/1.01.02
Robb, I’m coming back to Paleo after spending the last couple of months eating mostly junk, even though it was all gluten free. I lost some weight while counting calories for two weeks but then realized that I was neurotic, tired, grumpy, and weak after eating an average of 1,800 calories a day. Listening to your answer for question 4 was like getting dumped in an ice bath. I’m done with messing around and I’m going to follow your advice in that answer outside of the lowish carb part because a baked potato at work makes everything better (using Mat Lalonde’s approach I guess). Thanks for your help. This podcast combined with yesterday’s post made me realize that 15% and chubby is not acceptable.
when is the Fighting focused nutrition book coming out?
Your general advice for extra carbs is mostly yams or sweet potatoes. Could you, or anyone else reading this, write shortly about what the big difference is from ordinary white potatoes? and what’s bad about them.
Re: Feeding the World Via Paleo / becoming a vegetarian to “save animals” or thinking that we CAN feed the world on oil/grains…
Paul Chek had a great point about this on a recent podcast interview with Sean Croxton over at Underground Wellness. Paul was talking to a caller about how a human being who isn’t taking care of his/her health #1 is harming the ONE animal who can affect the changes necessary to protect all of the other animals in our eco-system via his/her choices to support biodynamic/grass-fed/pastured raised/sustainable farming.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/undergroundwellness/2010/11/18/ask-paul-chek-round-3
In response to Question #3, the Digestive Enzymes saved me. I had stomach problems even after switching to Paleo. What I imagine happened is my gut was so wrecked I needed the enzymes to repair it. It was a life saver!
do cows eat grass?
“I do not have an opinion on that statement” – Atlas Shrugged
Hey Robb,
Did the Nightline segment about you and Art Devany air yet???
Nick,
Not yet but sometime soon – there will be an announcement on the blog when it’s going to air!
Robb I think you would be really interested in a book by the name “Sex at Dawn” you may not agree with the whole theory but it’s still an interesting look at another potential effect of agriculture on humans and relates to population growth but what little nutrition they have is a little out of whack
I keep forgetting to mention this book to him, I think it’s fascinating and really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for bringing it up!
thanks for answering my Warrior Diet question! 🙂
I’m tinkering with it based on the science–as far as I can understand it–from Ori Hofmekler in The Warrior Diet (really no science) and Maximum Muscle Minimum Fat (a lot of science).
Trying to get down to single digit body fat percentages and I’m almost willing to try anything. Primal Blueprint and The Paleo Solution has gotten me to about 10%~, I may have to reread Pale Solution as I know I missed something on my first read through.
Hey Robb, where’s that article about the Dean politically saying she had no comment on whether grass-fed beef is a good gig?
I got it. ‘Cows are grass fed’ and other inflammatory statements.
I’ll insert this here because I’m not sure Robb covered it earlier.
The benefits of ‘grass fed beef’ only come from ‘grass finished beef’
According the EatWild.com, the authority on the health benefits of pastured meats, ‘grass fed beef’ are often finished on grain (it puts on a lot of weight) Grain destroys the omega 3 benefits and also the CLA. According to Jo Robbins (?), the founder of the site, ONE mouthful of grain is enough to alter the rumin to the point that omega 3’s are super reduced and CLA disappears.
What you want is GRASS FINISHED BEEF which, generally, you can only buy directly from a farmer.
Grass finished beef is beef that has never eaten ANY GRAIN and most definitely has not been fattened on grain at the end of it’s life.
http://www.eatwild.com is the best source of info on how to use grass finished meats and on the latest news on health benefits.
I’m a farmer. I spend time with other farmers at the seed store and places like that. I over hear a lot of crazy conversations, especially this one ‘COWS EAT GRASS!” and then it goes from there: farmers happy to tell city folks that ‘Sure, this cow is grass fed COWS EAT GRASS, don’t they’ but you can be certain that he wouldn’t want to miss out on the easy bucks from the price-per-pound of cattle fattened on grains so although the cow (I hope it’s a steer!!) does get some grass (or hay) in its life, and most certainly is ‘grass fed’ all the benefits that Robb is referring to (omega 3, CLA etc) are not present.
Make sure you are buying from someone who knows what ‘grass finished means’! eatwild.com also lists vetted producers of truly grass finished meats (oh, Iike the use of ‘inflammatory’ with ‘grass fed’ that Jon uses below! 😉
A2 is the milk without the problem protein Beta Casein
Article
http://thebovine.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/the-devil-in-the-milk-dr-thomas-cowan-on-how-a2-milk-is-the-answer-to-the-mystery-of-why-even-raw-milk-sometimes-does-not-seem-to-be-enough-of-an-improvement-over-store-bought/
Powerpoint presentation on the A1 / A2 science
http://www.nodpa.com/a1_a2.pdf
Book:
http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Milk-Illness-Health-Politics/dp/1603581022
A2 milk is still allergenic, so it is still a problem if you are allergic to cows milk
http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/181_10_151104/letters_151104-1.html
Robb – Thanks for mentioning A2 milk! For a guy who shops at Trader Joe’s, you sure get deeply in food!
B2 milk (apparently) is yet another example of ways the industrial food system has altered our food in ways that we are not aware of an yet our genetics totally are. You can never look deeply enough into the industrial food supply to relax because things that have been altered for profit usually aren’t things that also the sort of nutrition that our bodies need to grow and heal.
I’m no expert on A2 milk, so everyone should not that I may have my wires crossed as to which is good and which is bad, but you’ll get the point.
Robb mentioned that Jersey cows were the ones to watch out for. Actually, it’s the Holsteins cows. The Holsteins, beautiful as they are (black and white, classic cow pattern), were bred to produce more milk than traditional breeds (Jersey, Guernsey, etc). Somewhere in the process of that breeding, genes that make milk that’s less digestable for humans came into existence.
IT’s so crazy! People saying “I can drink milk just fine!” and other people saying ‘I can’t tolerate milk!’ and all of us thinking we’re talking about the same thing! Unfortunately, like so much of the food that the industrial system distirbutes: not all milk is created the same. (And our bodies know this. )
There is at least one certifier of A2 milk. I think they are at A2milk.com (if they aren’t they should be!)
One ad hoc way to avoid the bad b2 milk is to avoid dairies that milk holsteins. Any holstein is likely to have the bad milk. Jerseys and other traditional heavy cream producing breeds are more likely to have the good A2 milk. (especially if you are buying RAW MILK, support traditional dairymen and fully grass fed herds!!) Heritage breeds like Dexter almost always are A2, but Dexter milk is hard to find.
So, what I’m trying to say is that our genetics may not be that familiar with A2 milk but they are REALLY unfamiliar with B2 milk!
This subliminal alteration of ‘whole food’ is throughout our food supply. Another example, one that the Macro peoplle in Chico are probably not aware of, is what happened to the world’s rice. Accordsing to Al Kapuler, America’s top seedsman and founder of Seeds of Change and a person who was trying to cure himself of cancer with macrobiotics (it kept him alive for 10 years after 30 of his classmates died of the same cancer – they were all exposed to a super carcinagen in lab work. Al is written up in one of Dr Weil’s earlly books) for 10 years. While he remained alive, the cancer was never cured by the macro diet (Al ate nothing but miso soup,garlic and brown rice during that period) Eventually, Al found out that the GREEN REVOLUTION has replaced in the mid 60’s all the commercial rice production in the world with a hybrid rice that simply did not have the energy to cure cancer that was coming from the rice that Osawa worked with in the early 60s, curing cancer and making macrobiotics famous. According to Al, the nation’s top seedsman, that original rice was totally gone from the planet, leaving us with a rice that did not have the qualities that made brown rice a famous healing food. (Al was eventually cured by advance genome-based chem. Oh, like any sane person, he refused chemo originally – as a scientist he saw it as a stupid way to try to cure anything!) So, Robb, perhaps this explains why you think rice SUCKS as a food but your neighbors still worship it (and they are not only failing to cure cancer but many of them (the Kushis, for example) are getting and dying from cancer
Good source for information on this deep alteration of the food supply is the magazine ACRES USA http://www.acresusa.com or lectures by Jerry Brunetti (really smart on the value of milk from grass fed cattle)
As a long time CSA farmer and manager in the DC-area who cured himself from a wasting disease by moving from Fast Food to Whole Food, I’ve been deeply informed by the two sources above.
Folks – I left some confusing information in the post above. “B” milk is not the issue.
Wikipedia puts it this way
“A2 Milk is a trademark of the A2 Corporation. The trademark is licensed by milk distributors for labelling cows’ milk which has been tested to contain only (mostly?) A2 type β-casein, and not the A1 type β-casein found in milk from most dairy herds.
The A2 Corporation has developed a genetic test where DNA from a cow’s tail hair is examined to determine whether the milk they produce will contain A1 β-casein. Milk producers can test all their cows, and separate those that produce A2 milk from those who do not. Milk produced by such herds and identified as “A2 milk” is currently available in New Zealand, Australia and select locations in the United States.
A1 and A2 β-casein are categories of proteins divided according to their chemical structures. The difference in structures is important because during digestion A1 and A2 are broken into different chemical compounds and in particular for A1 β-casein the casomorphin BCM7.”
And this from the A2 site:
Why should you care? Because there are different types of beta-caseins in milk that tend to break down differently upon digestion, creating different biological activity for the milk drinker.
The two most prevalent types of beta-caseins in milk are referred to as “A1” and “A2”, and most milk sold today contains both. Scientific studies show that between the two, A2 was the original beta-casein, followed in evolution by the appearance of A1. This indicates that the ancestors of all modern-day cows produced milk with A2 beta-casein but without any A1 beta-casein — or what we call “a2 Milk®”
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Sorry for the confusing error. I’ve been making mistakes like this ever since Robb got me off from caffeine!!
Thanks for the information/clarifications Allen, much appreciated.
Hey Robb,
I’d love to listen to a podcast with you and professor Jeff Volek from Uconn. You and he share a lot of the same philosophies on nutrition and training. Also I think it would be cool to see a student of Dr. Atkins and a student of Dr. Cordain talking about changing the world. Thanks.
Great idea! I love his work.
Robb,
In regards to the guy from the protein sparing modified fasts, I recently listen to you on someones podcast talking “the biggest loser” and how, while it makes for great TV, there is a healthier way to do that and even get faster results. Seems like if that is so, that would be a good option instead of these protein sparing modified fasts. What protocol would you have someone follow to get those kinds of results? My dad completed a all liquid diet years ago and while he lost a ton of weight, he was a grumpy/mean man while he was on it and just looked sickly. Also, he went from being able to lift up the back end of my moms tercel (yeah, this was a long time ago) to not being able to bench press an unloaded bar. Inevitably, he went back to his old eating habits after he finished with the shakes and gained all of the weight back, plus some extra.
Well, I think that back slide is the issue. You need to do something long term sustainable.
I agree that it is the back slide that is the issue, and any kind of change should be something you believe is truly making you healthier and happier and not something you simply “get through”.
Love your answer concerning population/paleo. It’s good to hear you expound on the social/political/cultural factors at play. No easy answers.
I am eagerly awaiting the “Flow-chart” tool so I can choose my own adventure!
Wow, in regards to the population/paleo/sustainability, that stuff really hits my buttons. Most people who say these things about diet are living in houses that everyone in the world can’t have and driving cars that everyone in the world can’t have.
Sheesh. Pursuing equality for equality’s sake sucks. If you pursue excellence, someone else will always pursue it to a lesser degree, and thus inequality has to be the condition of humanity unless we all agree to go lowest common denominator.
Shall I say “I don’t do pullups because some people are born without arms.” ??? Crazyness, yet some will say they won’t eat paleo because not everyone can do it.
Best thing you can do for the poor is to not be among them. Rant off, I’m stepping off the soapbox.
Now I’m going to go make a nice post-rant recovery meal. I’m thinking grass fed beef and sweet potato to replenish my carbs. That was definitely pushing me into glycogen depletion.
Thanks for answering my question about some people’s hangup with the “paleo” concept. As you spoke, I remembered all the vegan stuff I’ve read over the years. They ignore any physiological evidence for adaptation to meat consumption, even when it’s obvious. I also remember how vegans treated Dr. Atkins. He lent credibility to the mere possibility of eating meat – so they were ready to come after him with pitchforks and torches.
As for creationists, you might be surprised. Most of them (in my state) seem to be really big into hunting and fishing. They’d do it every day if given the chance. You could make a lot of friends by convincing their wives that wild-caught meat is healthier.
Many are also farmers of a very conventional sort. Maybe you could suggest that there’s more profit in a higher quality product (grass fed beef, yard raised chickens, organic eggs) with a smaller niche market. Good luck with that.
As a long-time vegetarian, I’m not quite ready to face the big “meat” issue on a personal level. Doing what I can without going there just yet. I reserve the right to try it your way if this doesn’t work out though. I really don’t want to become a diabetic.
That was pretty long… It’s okay if you don’t want to read it all out loud. Thanks again for the great podcast!
I almost feel sorry for you. You Americans have to go to a special and no doubt high priced store to get grass fed butter (do you need a secret handshake as well?). We may have a few problems on our little islands, but at least all, yes all, our meat and dairy are grass fed… and considerably cheaper than in the US.
Pleased to have kicked the farm subsidies thirty odd years ago.
Those of us with local Trader Joe’s stores have access to affordable, grass fed Irish butter 🙂
did I hear you say making an international stop for PSS? Make it somewhere in Asia pleaseeeee! I’ll fly from Singapore to whereever it will be.
Hey Robb and Andy,
Just curious on when you will know if Toronto’s Seminar in March will be accredited or not. I’m already signed up but I have a friend thats thinking about going too.
side note you guys are the tits…hahaha
thanks for everything!
The Robb Wolf,
Do you have any suggestions/resources on GPP that can be done without a sled or prowler? I only have access to a heavy (84 lbs) weight vest. I am trying to maintain maximum strength and size, but I also need GPP work to keep some Stamina capacity for kickboxing/military work as well. Thanks for the great podcast!
Matthew
Love the new intro music!
Always love the info! Thanks!
Yes, Cyrex labs is the real deal.
Great panels and incredibly helpful in the overall process.
~j
Regarding yams and sweet potatoes:
* In the US, it’s unlikely that you have ever eaten a yam, unless you have a large community of recent immigrants from Africa or parts of the Caribbean.
Yams are huge in comparison to sweet potatoes. Completely different family of tuber. Common in Africa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kiekie_yams.jpg
I never saw a real one until moving to London, from the US. Have them along with all sorts of other tubers in the middle-eastern and african shops throughout my area of London. Too bad no Japanese varieties.
Interesting note from the wikipedia page:
“It is also known to replenish fast-twitch fibers and West Indians use it as a way of recovering after sprinting.”
Cool!