Low-Carbs and CrossFit

I received an email from Nicholas Hahn last week in which he described his experience using a VERY low carb diet with a CrosFit template. His results are interesting and pretty impressive as he appears to run better on less than Zone levels of carb intake. Whooda-thunkt-it?

Some of the other benefits appear to be improved leanness and better insulin sensitivity. Long term it seems like throwing in more veggies might be good to maintain a net alkaline balance. is this the right Rx for everyone and every situation? No, obviously not, but it’s interesting how much adaptation there can be towards this lower carb approach.

Who might benefit from an approach like this? Anyone with insulin resistance. If you read Light’s Out and buy into the concepts they talk about in that book, perhaps everyone would benefit from a  few months each year of ketogenic eating. Whatever the case, give this a read and kick this around: How effective are we when we live purposefully? If we know WHY we do something in training, nutrition or financial investing is that a BETTER or WORSE approach vs a random un-directed approach? When and where is a random, undirected approach appropriate?

From Nicholas:

Before starting a weighed and measured, Paleo (ala Loren Cordain) diet, I was between 240 and 245 lbs.  Within a few months, I dropped to my current weight of 205 lbs at 6’4”.  I’ve been doing CrossFit seriously for about 2.5 years and maintain a paleo diet, plus butter and the occasional cheese.

After reading Mat Lalonde’s post about his experience with a very low carbohydrate diet (VLC) and CrossFitting, I decided I would push the envelope a bit further.  I had read Good Calories, Bad Calories and read about the controlled study involving Vilhjalmur Stefansson and his cohort on a meat-only diet for one year.  That intrigued me enough to read his book on the subject Not By Bread Alone (http://tinyurl.com/yzcvwv5).  Like Cordain, he recounted the high-fat, low-carbohydrate diets of various Native Americans and recounted his experience with the Inuit.  Not only did the meat-only diet not cause scurvy, Stefansson’s cohort actually experienced improved health.

My experiment was simple.  I strove to mimic Stefansson’s diet as closely as possible for the month of November.  I ate only meat and eggs (which are meat by definition) with seasonings like salt, pepper and the like–nothing, though, that would contribute any carbohydrate or nutrients other than the meat did.  I also ate a good amount of grass-fed tallow in order to ward off the dreaded rabbit starvation, which occurs when protein constitutes too much of one’s diet, and to get enough omega-3s.  I naturally fell into an 18-20 hour intermittent fasting schedule, since it seems like I just never felt hungry.  The common question is “How were your BMs?”  They were fine.  Daily, sometimes twice daily.  The biggest concern with the diet is the acid-base balance, which Cordain talks about in the Paleo Diet.  I haven’t heard of epidemics of osteoporosis in the Inuit, but we’re in the business of health optimization.

The only downside to the diet was the fact I couldn’t have red wine and other tasty foods. I felt no negative side-effects like headaches or lethargy, after the first couple of days, which typically accompany VLC diets.  After my first time eating too much fat, I did have indigestion, however, I quickly realized where to cut the fat down.

I did three test WODs to see my change post-diet.  Again, I am not a top-tier athlete by any means.

WOD                           Time (Paleo diet)                              Time (Ketogenic diet)

Annie (RX)                 7:01                                                    6:46

Helen (RX)                 11:23                                                  10:46

Christine (RX)           14:59                                                  13:41

All the WODs were performed 2-3 weeks into the diet, which I timed to coincide with other people’s accounts of acclimation to VLC diets (cf. http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2).  WODs in the longer domains felt difficult, but I continued to place in the range of the same people I had before the diet.  In a few cases, I happened to place near the top of the gym.

As for strength, the lifts I tested were the back squat high, bar (275 lbs x 3 reps) and low bar (325 x 1), and the press (155 lbs). They did not move, but I had also not practiced those that month.  I focused, instead, on gymnastic strength that month and I finally conquered the “big kids’ muscle-up” and was good enough to finish “Nasty Girls” as RX’d at the behest of Sage Burgener who was at our box doing a cert.  I also got my first legit one-legged squats.  Additionally, I tested my 1000m row and I PR’d at 3:12.5, which is down from 3:15.7 my previous time.

At least for some people, a VLC or ketogenic diet can not only help individuals feel better, but can allow them continued performance gains.  At a minimum, I found that a zero carb diet didn’t inhibit performance, and even allowed gains.  Personally, I visibly leaned out and lost 2 pounds in the space of a month.  If the liver makes glycogen for recharging muscles and feeding the brain, many people probably don’t need to be eating so many carbohydrates—especially not the 162 grams/day I was eating on the Zone.  We need to think about this in light of the deleterious effects of sugar in the longer term, which can lead to high oxidative levels and decreased insulin sensitivity.  Fructose and glucose aren’t necessarily beneficial substances for our bodies—especially for athletes who may have pre-existing conditions.

I suspect a decreased need for sugar is especially true, if the athlete adheres to a WOD-ME-WOD template, since ME days likely don’t use much glycogen.  The case may be different if working out 2+ times a day or competing in an endurance event.  As Robb suggested to me, adding in some low Glycemic Load veggies would be a great way to shore up micronutrient intake and keep acid-base balance without adding too much carbohydrate.  What I’ve come to realize is that the Zone, or Paleo, may be sufficient for fitness, but not necessary.

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62 Comments

  1. JC
    Posted December 8, 2009 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Robb check out this piece on pro basketball player Chris Kaman’s Vitamin D deficiency:
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-fyi8-2009dec08,0,5249805.story

  2. Posted December 8, 2009 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    JC-
    Good find! thanks!

  3. Posted December 8, 2009 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Dr Ed,
    I just read your comment about a client with costochondritis. My husband has had this a couple of times and after suffering for months heard that rolfing was really effective – which he tried – and it has been really successful. He hasn’t had another epsisode since he went paleo a year ago.

  4. Nick Hahn
    Posted December 8, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    In reply to the question about what type of meat I ate, I just ate muscle meat from pork, beef, bison, turkey, and lamb. How did I keep it interesting? A friend and I made some home-made bacon and that kept it interesting. But I think its pretty easy to get used to the meat only approach. No organ meats and I only ate marrow out of the lamb shanks and that was only a couple of times. Other than that meat and eggs.

    As for vitamin C, I think Gary Taubes talks about it in his GCBC and he postulates that either grains or carbohydrates mess with vitamin C metabolism. I’m not really sure that’s been totally hashed out, though.

  5. Steve Smith
    Posted December 9, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Robb –

    First – I read through the link posted:

    http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2

    It was a very interesting read.

    One thing that jumped out in that article was the studies showed that a VLC diet/no carb diet will not REDUCE physical performance (past the first 1-3 weeks of adaptation). The studies seem to indicate that the human body is very capable on subsisting on a fat/protein only diet. He mentions sustaining lean body mass and performance. There was nothing about improving lean body mass and nothing about increasing performance.

    Not to question the intention of the original letter, but I wonder how much improvement in performance seen when ‘testing’ a eating plan for a month (whether it is paleo/zone/VLC/etc) is the result of the person wanting to see an improvement and making it happen vs seeing an improvement based solely on the change in eating.

  6. Posted December 9, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Steve-
    I don;t know but one has even an ounce of competitiveness I think you try to get the most out of ANYTHING you are doing. When we see high performing athletes see a significant bump in performance it;s pretty interesting for me.

  7. Nick Hahn
    Posted December 9, 2009 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Steve, I’ll be the first to admit that people are very susceptible to biases, like the Hawthorne effect and that my little experiment isn’t at all applicable to anyone else. There may have been a bunch of variables at play in my improvement of times. But we can definitely say restricting carbs won’t hurt performance. I personally felt better and stronger, but that isn’t exactly quantifiable.

    The for me was to see if you *can* maintain good, or possibly improved performance eating fewer, or no, carbs. Obviously, we’d have to run multiple experiments and compare things for a while to make a real determination as to whether I actually would continue to make progress. I suspect I would.

    The more I think of it, the idea that sugar–especially super high amounts–is necessary for performance seems to fly in the face of evolutionary logic, as sugar is one of those things that tend to be at a premium in nature. A naturally sugar dependent person would probably find his/her way out of the gene pool relatively quickly during the first drought.

  8. David
    Posted December 10, 2009 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    I’ve personally gone through a total transformation on a VLC lifestyle. My first day ever doing CrossFit was Oct. 11-08. I began at 235lbs and 22% BF at 6′. I started with jumping pull ups, maybe 10 push-ups max, 135lb deadlift, never heard of a clean, or snatch, and couldnt run if my life depended on it.

    I then began a zero carb plan, and ate as much as I wanted. Since then I have dropped to 10% BF, 194lbs, 10 strict muscle-ups, 400 lb deadlift, 1:09 400m run, 175lb snatch, 225 lb clean and jerk, among many other PR’s (in fact my GPP is mostly advanced level 3 on the Crossfit skill assessment)! Much can be attributed to Newbie gains, but if nutrition is the foundation, then I can confidently say that the VLC works and is sustainable. I dont get sick anymore, I feel great, and see most people in my gym getting the same results!

    Much Thanks to:
    Robb Wolf
    Mark Sisson
    Art De Vanny
    Mike Eades
    and everyone else not mentioned that know their Nutrition stuff and share with the world. Your work has helped me change my life!!!!

  9. jon w
    Posted December 11, 2009 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Hey Nick nice writeup. As others mentioned, I too would be leery of self-bias when you are in a “sample size of one” – one control would be to test again when you go back off the diet? But you certainly proved it doesnt make you drop dead (as most people on the street have been indoctrinated to believe).

    I have heard about the importance of uncooked or at least low-temp meat if that is your only source of nutrition, and of course the vitamins in organ meat. Did you worry about these factors at all, or think they’re important for longer term use? I know liver has a bad rap, but if you know any hunters, fresh pork liver is by far the best… and at $2/lb whole foods chicken liver is amazing wrapped in bacon and fried or grilled.

    Anyone interested in this should read a great summary of making beef jerky: http://www.carnivorehealth.com/main/2009/5/10/upping-production-or-how-i-have-become-a-one-man-pemmican-fa.html

  10. PJ
    Posted December 13, 2009 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    Robb,
    Shot an email awhile back looking for some insights background on the energy systems and the disparity between the current mainstream sports nutrition guidelines and what we seeing working for our athletes. That “Ketogenic Diets and Physical Performance” article is great and helps to bring light to the endurance side–but what about anaerobic efforts? Most of what I’ve read would support a reliance on glycogen during very high intensity work, further linking a “need” for more carbohydrates in the diet. But I’ve seen many crossfitters do extremely well with paleo. Any leads on the how/why?

  11. Posted December 13, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    PJ-
    If the effort is shorter, I think we are seeing fine performance on a ketogenic or nearly so protocol. When intensity AND durations tart pushing out, we will need more carbs. then as duration extends, intensity must fall, then we see folks doing better on more fat.

    If you recall from that nutriton and metabolism paper, the one thing they saw a dip in was anaerobic efforts. I think we just need to keep an eye on intake and performance and steer the ship where we need it to go.

  12. PJ
    Posted December 14, 2009 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the thoughts Robb.
    From this it’d make sense then to keep metcons VERY short if doing low carb. A good match for this might be what the CrossFit Wichita Falls program did with M/T/Th/F as Strength days while tossing in some carefully planned 6-8 minute high power output metcons on Tuesday and Friday only, and resting W/Sa/Su.

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