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Robb Wolf is a former research biochemist and 2X New York Times/Wall Street Journal Best-selling author of The Paleo Solution and Wired To Eat. Along with Diana Rodgers, he co-authored the book, Sacred Cow, which explains why well-raised meat is good for us and good for the planet. Robb has transformed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people around the world via his top-ranked iTunes podcast, books, and seminars. He also co-founded the 1st and 4th CrossFit affiliate gyms in the world, The Healthy Rebellion community platform, and is the co-founder of DrinkLMNT Electrolytes.
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Hi,
Would you care to comment on the meta analysis that was recently released that found aspirin use reduces risk and mortality of cancer? Your website is much appreciated!
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)60503-1/abstract
This one leads to the new t-shirt idea… PALEO Solution Just f-in try it, then lets us know (30 days minimum)…
Good stuff guys thanks for your work.
Show Topics:
1. The Paleo Concept 5.34
2. Paleo + Pregnancy + Weight loss + Risk 23.53
3. Esophageal Spasms 28.12
4. Low Carb & Depression 30.16
5. Optimal Training 36.33
6. Paleo and Anxiety/Depression/Testosterone 53.47
Robb,
You mentioned something on this podcast which got me thinking….
If I supplement with Plutonium will I become Superman-ish
(i.e. – obtain the ability to grow a beard reminiscent of Andy Deas’)?
Thanks,
J
Haiku answer for Question 2
Pregnant Mom concern
Paleo is the best way
Go reproduce well
Aloha
If you need a “kigo”, change last line to
Spring awaits new life
Hey Robb and Andy,
Thank you very much for answering my question about low testosterone and inflammation. I am taking a DHEA cream from a Naturopath but have not yet tried Tribulus or Holy Basil. I will definitely look into that. Keep up the great work! I have gotten my Mom to join Paleo and a good friend to join in and become Robb Wolf fans.
Robb, great stuff lately on the PodCasts…well, great stuff all the time on the Podcasts, but some stuff lately has sparked some questions/comments.
-Ep 54. You and Andy talked about electrolyte balance in “Paleo Land”. We’ve had this issue with a good amount of our athletes during the Paleo Challenges that we run. This has caused everything from calf/foot cramps, “bonking” on METCONs, to Amernorrhoea.
As soon as we dose with Propel (the sugar free gatorade, still got artificial sweeteners) or Endurolytes (pill form of electrolyte), these issues seem to resolve themselves immediately.
Sidebar, this happens with females of all shapes and sizes, but with guys, it’s mainly endomorph types.
Any other options or thoughts on why/how this is going on?
-Ep 55. You touched on endurance athletes and addictive behavior. We’ve seen this time and again, mostly among females, and it seems to tie in to athletes with a “high stress” lifestyle.
I don’t meet many surfers who run 60 miles per week, but I have plenty of lawyers, doctors, and accountants who work 60 hours per week and put in hours and hours pounding the pavement.
I have some general thoughts that parasympathetic nervous system is just “reset” to a higher level of cortisol saturation. The athlete is constantly in fight or flight mode.
Inevitably this will lead to serious health issues, but I’d like your thoughts on if this is an accurate model and/or what the tipping point or trigger might be? How much is genetic versus environment?
Brian – do you think people are restricting carbs too much when they switch to paleo? Eades also talks about potassium depletion when starting protein power plan and needing to take supplements.
I’ve noticed personally just including enough sweet potato / pumpkin (i.e winter squash) makes a big difference to how I feel with paleo. Many people switch to just non starch carbs which give you very little usuable glucose. Although it helps with weight loss, I never feel at my best with just non starch carbs.
Hi Robb n Andy
Going in line with the optimal training questions and incoporating some MovNat style work into our training, do you think Erwan or yourself may be interested in doing up the occasional ‘MovNat WOD’. I know it seems like a cliched idea at the moment, but covereing some movements, scaling obstacles, tips, parkour-esque “circuit” or something in a video would give peaple an idea of what to do at the gym or out in the wilderness somewhere in order to improve their skills at…. moving naturally!
I would love this
Robb,
Do you know of any research, or have any personal experience, concerning paleo eating and its effect on asthmatics. I have two boys who struggle with asthma and am wondering if this type of eating protocol would be beneficial at helping alleviate their symptoms.
It does help with asthma, all my clients with asthma notice a considerable improvement. Another thing to check is Vit D status, and keep it up to about 40.
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/success_stories/#asthma
http://paleohacks.com/questions/6307/did-your-asthma-improve-after-switching-to-paleo#axzz17bIe3DUB
And though not asthma, my mother has small airways disease – a lot of lung inflammation and mucus that improved dramatically with paleo.
If you prefer anecdotal evidence:
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/success_stories/#asthma
If you want some more clinical analysis:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20036578
This second link implicates that YOUNG people with asthma have a strong correlation with celiac disease.
Paleo, pregnancy, and kids: From what we know eating a Paleo type diet is the most nutrient dense and healthy way to eat, it also eliminates foods that cause all hosts of problems and potential disease. If you have a child you probably want the absolute best for them, this is probably your goal whether the child is still inside or outside of you. Doesn’t eating the most nutrient dense diet, while eliminating problematic foods that can lead to bad health, disease (auto-immune and general), inflammation, digestive issues, mental health problems, etc. (especially when the child is young and developing and even more susceptible to damage) seem like a good idea?
Here’s a good article I read recently on low carb and longevity
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1323758/Can-cutting-Carbohydrates-diet-make-live-longer.html
I feel best eating lower carb. I eat some sweet potato or squash or something after some workouts. Eating something starchy like that PWO and mostly veggies the rest of time still ends up being pretty low carb by todays standards. Another thing I love about eating a lower carb paleo diet, I can eat till im full and thinking “wow, i’m pretty stuffed” and still feel great, clear headed, no crashing or nausea and all that.
Thanks for this. My question was a bit cryptic in that the concern is weight loss (and potentially rapid weight loss) should my wife be pregnant and start eating Paleo. We know she will absolutely benefit on this diet as everyone does. It’s more a concern of harming the fetus if she is dropping weight too quickly. But, problem solved: eat more grass fed beef, healthy fats and eggs!
Sounds good!
Eating Paleo doesn’t necessarily mean losing weight, some people even gain weight naturally when their gut heals and they’re actually absorbing nutrients (usually people who are underweight to begin with). Also when people lose weight by eating a Paleo type diet its usually in a healthy manner and is just getting the body closer to the normal healthy weight it should be at in the first place. If she eats normally with just good paleo foods there shouldn’t be a problem.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
As for going off foods for a length of time and coming back on them, this was common when we lived closer tot he farm. Certain foods, plants or animals, were not available during certain times of the year. We didn’t seem to have a problem eating them again after a long layoff.
Robb,
You mentioned taking a large amount supplements including B vitamins can be bad. My doctor just put me on a B complex vitamin to support my hypothyroid condition. How much is too much?
You’re generally good with B vitamin complexes. The danger comes in when people are taking insane dosages of 1 particular vitamin/nutrient.
For example, the RDA for vitamin D is 600IU now. Some literature I’ve read has had people taking 28,000IU per day with no ill effects at all (it actually appeared to help some MS patients).
There are also documented cases of people taking crazy doses of vitamin C, and then suffering from rebound scurvy when they try to stop/reduce their intake.
I think the important thing to take into consideration is, what supplements are you taking, and why are you taking them. I.e. I take fish oils because I don’t eat a lot of fish, I don’t eat game/grass fed meats (usually) and if I DID just eat fish every day I’d probably end up with lead/mercury/a whole host of other toxins poisoning me.
Answering your question is difficult to do without knowing what medications you’re taking, what your current level of health is like, etc. etc.
Just wanted to comment that your 15 minute reply/rant to Jon’s question was some of the most interesting and concise material I’ve heard in a long while. Excellent work, and I had to listen to that section a couple times to grok it all. Great stuff, and it just came out so “bare” and honest, and stream-of-consciousness. Thank you very much!
Thank you, appreciate the kind words.
Yes! All together, one of the best, most comprehensive episodes ever …and I’ve listened to all of them at least twice. Well, not this one, yet.
I meant, “altogether”.
Robb,
Thanks for answering my question, it’s good to hear that you’re moving away from the whole caveman thing, I still hear a lot of paleo people saying that they don’t eat a certain food because cavemen didn’t have it, without assessing the merits of that individual food or the context of the situation. I’m not sure if you read the full exchange between Andy and myself on his blog, but I was commenting also on things like the atkins flu, where it can take 30 days for people to start feeling good on low carb paleo, but in that case the ‘how do you look/feel/perform’ is kind of forgotten about for a while. I realise that gluten and lactose are common allergens, and many people eat them without having a baseline to know how better they feel without them, but on re-introduction, I’m still not 100% sure on what it means if you get a little bit of bloat or a runny nose? Would you be able to link me to the specific papers you were mentioning? You talked about asymptomatic celiacs and other autoimmune stuff, but again, I’m not quite sure if you’re saying because it makes autoimmune conditions worse, how does this translate to people without these conditions? Are you saying it makes these conditions worse, or that it causes them? If a celiac was born and grew up in a paleo eating family, would you say they had an autoimmune condition, and it’s only expressed when they eat gluten? Or would you say gluten damages the gut lining over time and causes celiac or similar issues in everyone? I’m getting sidetracked, and I know there’s a lot of Qs here, but I’m still unsure of the gap between paleo for autoimmune sufferers (like the 200+ cordain interviewed) and for unaffected people. I understand the idea of removing common allergens, but eggs, seafood and treenuts are also very common, but they’re not removed in the elimination diet?
On the issue of mass hypnosis, I think paleo is a good way to eat, I’m just trying to learn about some of the nuances I’m confused about. I’ve done the 100% paleo for a month, when I re-introduced grains/legumes/dairy I had mixed responses, dairy seemed to congest my nose a bit initially, but after a week or two of eating it it went away and I felt file, legumes felt fine, and grains seem very variable. A few times I had brown rice, my eyes went bloodshot, I got itchy skin and my nose started running, other times I’ve had a huge amount of bread or something like that and felt fine. Right now I’m leaning out slightly so I’m using lyle’s targeted keto diet (TKD), which is pretty much meat and veg all day, with ample fat and a piece of fruit pre-workout, so it’s basically paleo anyway. So there’s quite a bit of common ground between camps, although aragon doesn’t seem to like the strategic use of keto in the way lyle does. Back to the mass hypnosis thing, I don’t know if you read what I said on andys blog, but I think a lot of the improvements from paleo are increases in protein/efa/fruit&veg that people are lacking on the zone/sad and increased calories for zoners, decreased calories for SADers, but none of that has necessarily got to do with the removal of grains/legumes/dairy. Also, when people see improvements in bloodword from eating paleo, how much of that is due to being in a caloric deficit (twinkie diet), and how much is due to the other stuff?
I know I’ve thrown about 100 questions at you, so I don’t expect them to be all answered, but I hope that described my point of view a bit better.
Jon-
I answer almost all this stuff in my book, shoot the contact page an email and I’ll send you one, on me. This will save us both a lot of time!
I am definitely interested in the answers to Jon’s inquiries, and I don’t think they were covered in that great of detail in podcast #68 as alluded to in the show notes.
So, I will absolutely check out the book (Paleo books are basically replacing my shelf-fulls of cook books lately), but am VERY on board with Jon’s idea about eliminating things and having reactions upon reintroduction – if it takes a few weeks to re-adjust, why is that inherently bad?
Thanks a bunch for EVERYTHING. This is such an amazing community and I hope to meet you soon at AHS.
Robb + Andy,
Thanks for answering my question. Very helpful. Hopefully I can convince her to give 30 days a try to gain some respite from her issues.
Robb!
I’m always surprised when you drop “Lindy Hop” in your podcasts. I’ve been dancing since 1999 (I’ve even danced in Chico!) and it’s great to hear you recommending it as an activity for mixing things up.
Love Paleo. Love the book.
Kristin Hershberger
Washington, D.C.
who is this “eeedoo” fella and where can I find some of his stuff? I need to make sure I’m moving right!
I know you hate the types of questions, but I’m curious about where you fall on the subject of nutritional yeast. Too processed? (Notice I didn’t ask if it was ‘paleo’.)
I used to use it a lot as a veggie back in the day and it was a really nice breading/seasoning product.
Anyways, thanks for all the book/podcasts. My mom just came back from the doctor today with great news about a big drop in her cholesterol levels! (I strong armed her into Paleo 2 months ago) She’s 71 and has a lot of stuff going on: Gall bladder out about 15 years ago, 4 knee replacements, 1 hip replacement, hypertension, neuropathy in her feet… just a whole host of problems, so it’s been great for her to get some headway in her weight going down as well as her blood work improving. I really hope that if it continues to improve she can get of the medley of 5 different meds they have her on for the cholesterol/hypertension.
And just as an fyi – I wouldn’t have known about you if it wasn’t for your book. (I bought that badboy in September on Amazon.) So, to all those people who want to be smarmy about you making a profit off of the book, I’m glad that it was out there so I found the website! It’s been helping my mom out a lot, not to mention my own situation.
Oh, more more thing. Also mentioned to my therapist that I was taking fish oil and she said that there are numerous studies that show that fish oil helps combat depression… so perhaps that element should also be examined when comparing diets in regards to depression.
Yeast?! I remember that stuff. I;d put it low on the tasty scale, I’d prefer to get my b-vit’s from meat and veggies!
Maybe Jon is helped with these two easy to read posts: http://www.cutthecarb.com/how-to-reverse-a-leaky-gut-and-stop-autoimmune-diseases/ and http://www.cutthecarb.com/your-daily-bread-pasta-and-pizza-are-killing-you/. VBR Hans
Thanks Hans!
Re: Paleo & Pregnancy
I’m speaking as a 4-time veteran of the baby makin’ game. Nutrient density and all that “sciency” stuff aside, my EASIEST pregnancy was the one where I ate a very paleo-like diet. It wasn’t “real” paleo, but was usually low-carb and high-fat, with plenty of physical activity until the day before I delivered. Unnecessary but non-optional medical interventions made the actual delivery worse (much, much worse), but it was the only L&D I had that I entered naturally.
So, everything else aside, the nine months are just easier without all the modern foods!
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