Another big day in podcast land – we have successful survived 20 episodes and Robb is still using the same jokes! Perhaps the book release will give him some new material.
Download a transcript of Episode 20
Here is the link to the Robb Wolf / Whole9 Fish Oil Calculator that we discussed during the show.
Show Topics
- PCBs in Fish Oil
- Unwanted weight gain and Paleo
- Obliterative Bronchiolitis
- Summer bulk up
- Satiety
- Testosterone replacement therapy
- Leaning out
- Cheat Meals / PCB issues / Type 1 diabetic / Paleo & kids
Show Notes – The_Paleolithic_Solution_Episode_20
Hi guys
UK listener here fond the show after lots of searching on the web on paleo how do i go about posting some question for rob to reply to
cheers in advance
Dan
Danny-
Post those right here.
Aw… thanks for the love, guys. Robb dishes out the Genius, we just automate it for the masses. Collaboration and cooperation, holla!
Melissa/Whole9
Hey Robb, great podcast as always. I read somewhere that one should supplement w/ vitamin E when taking large amounts of fish oil. Have you ever heard anything like this and if so what are your thoughts?
Robb,
I recently started using liquid fish oil (nord nat ult omega) and I have noticed a huge difference in muscle soreness. Could the liquid stuff be better absorbed or more effective than the pill form ?
Kevin-Wacky…will think on that.
I love Tuesdays!
Rob, you kill me. I can just see my wife rolling her eyes when I come home with a stack of porn to read in the bathroom. “Just keeping my testosterone levels up, honey”.
I am two weeks into a Paleo challenge myself and having some of the same issues with post meal hunger as Mike D. Even though I am full, I still feel like I need some carbs as a meal finisher. I was uncomfortable (hard feeling to explain), but now I just have a piece of fruit as a dessert and that does me a solid. But now I’m eating a lot of fruit. Maybe my brain isn’t digging ketosis. There might be some reduction in caloric intake since I was hovering around 4k kcal a day, and I’m finding it difficult to get it all in without the dairy.
I was never metabolically deranged. In fact, I am heavier now than ever (in a good way – lean mass). I was doing semi-paleo-pasturalist before (one to two small cheats a day – plus lots of milk) and felt fine with that.
The strict diet is working to a degree. In two weeks I have lost 5 lbs. and about 2% of body fat. Not a fast process, but no appreciable lean mass lost and no lost strength – lifts still progressing. My friend is amazed and didn’t think it was possible to lose weight and get stronger at the same time.
Matt-
Some folks just run better with a little more carbs. I just like dialing things down tight at first, then see how folks feel. Easy enough to add a little to find an optimum.
Hi Robb,
I’m 21 years old and training hard for triathlon. I eat paleo and use 30g CHO/day + 50g CHO/h of exercices. At first, I was taking a lot of fruit but now I want to reduce that. I tried sweet potatoes but I don’t really like it, but I love quinoa. Can you talk about it?
NICE, Robb!
Thanks for sharing your wealth of information. You’re the BOMB! LOL 😉
Hey is it gonna be a week long party when you’re drinking Norcal Margaritas all week long or just you and Nicki hanging out in the tropics somewhere?! 😉
Sande-
At least a week!
Is the book to be ardback or soft and useful if you shall not excuse the genital analogy ?
Do you have any contacts within the UK ? a very old and good pal is the royalty accountant for Little, Brown if you want a contact ?
fellows-
international dist, hardcover
Are your recommended fish oil amounts based on lean body mass or just weight?
Mike-total weight.
Hey Robb would you be alright with me going through all the podcasts and grabbing out the “golden nuggets” of information and sharing them with others?
Norm-
shoot me an email an let me know what you have in mind.
Robb Wolf! Andy Deas! (The intro may be my favorite pat of the show).
For some light relief, please see the link below- it is like a Monty Python sketch for the Paleo crowd. And reported in the esteemed BBC, too. Shame!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/8579472.stm
Perhaps you guys could de-stress at the end of a long and tiring Paleolithic Solution podcast by allowing Robb 5 minutes to riff on the idiocy of this idea and the lack of surprise at seeing that it appears to be funded by the “American Chemical Society”.
I remain, Sir, your obedient servant,
Tane
Listener # 432 (I have been making members of the Saudi Arabian Border Guard listen to excerpts of the podcast, thus dramatically increasing the number of listeners. Good news= you can retire the joke about having 6 listeners. Bad news= none of them understand English)
Tane-
Made my day!
Robb, a special thanks to you and Nicki for the guidance in structuring onRamp (we call ours Takeoff) and the guidance in setting up a Paleo competition (we called our Fit To Be Bare). We documented incredible changes and handed out $1000 in cash prizes.
Question potentially for the podcast. We recently had an athlete diagnosed with Rhabdo following an MEBB style WOD. (5 sets of 5 Back squat followed by 150 DB swings for time). He was scaled on the swings from 55 to 45 lbs. Athlete is a 10 yr Airborne Ranger, 32 yrs old, appx 5’5″ 155lbs. I was very confident that the primary contributing factors were: his 4 mile run that morning (potential dehydration), plus potential inexperience with repetitive WEIGHTED eccentric movements (although he had done KB training before and plenty of weighted ruck runs in his Airborne years). No medications.
Here’s the question: Post WOD, when he went home, he consumed (in his estimation), nearly 2 lbs of chicken. The doctors, upon diagnosing him, felt that the protein from the chicken is what put his kidneys over the top and worsened his condition to its eventual severity. What are your thoughts on that a) based on physiology involved in protein/nutrient absorption and the physiology of Rhabdo and b) if true, it’s potential impacts to post-WOD meals?
Thanks Robb.
Jeremy-
thanks for the props and will hit this in the podcast, very timely question.
Robb, Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it a lot. I will continue to try to cut back esp w/ my carb intake and I will keep you posted on how that goes. Same w/ the supplementing and wods. One more small question. Would the Now Digestive Enzymes help or hurt me in the quest? Do I want better absorbtion or will that make me pack on even more pounds to this body that has been less than ideal for so long? Thanks!
Celiac Mom-
BETTER DIGESTION! Always. You will get the other stuff figured out, it will just take a little tinkering. Healthy, then lean.
Hey Robb,
Great podcasts as always, can’t wait for your seminar on April 10. I have three questions, not sure if they have simple answers or if they would be good for a future podcast.
1 – When ingesting things that produce an insulin release without a matching level of carbs (artificial sweeteners, cheese, milk, picture of a volcano cake), what happens in the body with that extra insulin? I would guess that the body takes glucose from somewhere else to match the insulin, say the liver. In relation, should one be more concerned with insulin AUC or glucose AUC levels over time?
I know it’s not good to secrete insulin all day as we don’t want to burn out our pancreas but I’d guess that it’s better than ingesting a can of regular Coke. I know people that will have a sugar free energy drink for breakfast and lunch while not eating anything with it (usually just have a bigger dinner), and outside of adrenal fatigue, I would guess that it’s better than eating junk carbs or gluten instead.
2 – When eating low carb Paleo (carbs only coming from non-starchy veggies) and eating protein to Zone levels, should one be concerned with protein/muscle loss due to the body converting proteins and fats into glucose to meet the daily need of about 200g of glucose (got that figure from a recent Dr. Eades post). I initially want to say that it doesn’t matter because we can just look at Mat Lalonde’s results and see that on a diet of predominantly fat and then protein, he’s doing just fine. Just thought I’d get your take on it.
3 – Would you put sour cream under the same category as butter and heavy whipping cream when it comes to the dairy items that don’t dramatically spike insulin? I hope so because ground beef and sour cream is one of my favorite meals.
Sorry for the long questions but hopefully others have wondered the same things. Keep up the good work and thanks as always.
-Mark
Great info on EPA/DHA. I was hoping to hear your take on the PCB’s in fish oil. Good Morning America did a piece on it recently that has some people worried about the recommended dosage and what it means for PCB intake. It appears from the published research that the PCB content in fish oil supplements made from small fish (anchovy, sardines, etc) is very low and perhaps not worth worrying about.
Congratulations, guys and many more. I’m really looking forward to The Book. I’m counting on it being, to paraphrase Kelly, the unified field theory of nutrition.
Ciao,
Charles
Nevermind. I just needed to listen further. Thanks.
I’m really enjoying the show for both the advice and the sheer comedy of the commentary. Love the show and I hope you keep getting after it!
HI Robb! Still loving the podcast!
I want to say that no discussion of 80’s alternative sport movies (ie Rad, thrasher) would be complete without mention of gleaming the cube! It’s got everything, including the classic 80’s movie montage where the main character goes to the old werehouse/industrial park/ abandoned building where he gets all creative and sensitive with his skating/bmxing/dancing/gymnastics (think footloose for the last one.)
http://www.thelocal.se/22278/20090924/ Check it out, Sweden is catching on too!
Hey Rob, do we count the fiber in our daily carb count? I don’t usually count but I’m trying to fine tune a bit before the summer. When I did Keto back in the day, we didn’t count the fiber. What’s your take?
Robb- Love the pseudo sciency goodness of the website/podcast. So far this year I have added 55 lbs to my DL, 50 lbs to my squat, 60 lbs to my bench press all while doing a borderline ketogenic/ low carb paleo diet. Thanks for the good work.
Thought I would bring this to your attention. Read it this morning. Seems like the guy is cherry picking studies to support his point of view, and his conclusion is convoluted at best. Check it out.
http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/low-carb-dogma/
Robb:
A few podcasts back you mentioned some dark chocolate bars that you really liked. I think it was around the time of the Lou Mars event. I’ve been trying different types ranging from 70-90% cocoa and I don’t remember the kind you mentioned.
Thanks for doing what you do!
-Stephen
Stephen-
trader Joes specialty dark. 85% and the best bar I’ve ever had.
Robb,
I recall that in one of your podcasts you mentioned briefly that arthritis could be put into remission with a grain/dairy free Paleo diet. I have a friend who suffers from arthritis and I am almost certain that I could convince him to cut out all the gluten and other lectins from his diet. However, before I try to convince him, I would like to learn more about why gut irritation leads to/causes arthritis. I’m sure your super busy, so any bit of info would be greatly appreciated.
Matt-
it’s rheumatoid arthritis. Look for info on leaky gut and the autoimmune response. Some of the work by Cordain on multiple sclerosis is quite similar…videos on youtube.
Hi Robb,
I have a weight-loss question. I’m a 5’6”, 80kg female, probably about 26% body fat. I train Olympic weightlifting five times a week, Strongman once a week (I do doubles on Saturdays), and short, heavy, metcon-style conditioning twice a week (includes the Strongman). I have been looking to cut to 75kg for an Olympic weightlifting competition at the end of April.
I’ve been eating low-carb Paleo, save a cheat meal or two on Saturday, for three weeks now and have yet to see any progress weight-wise. I’ve tried eating at 2000 calories, at 1800 calories, and am now trying calorie-cycling from 1600-2400 calories. Carbs are coming strictly from vegetables, with the occasional fruit the first week but now not even that–they average 40-70g a day. Protein is well over 200g a day. I’m planning on cutting out cheat meals at this point as well. The clean eating has sent my performance skyrocketing and I AM leaning out–but the weight itself isn’t changing and that’s what I need for the comp. And at my body fat percentage it’s not like I don’t have some to lose.
Do you have any suggestions on what else I can do to speed my progress, though at this point I don’t know if 5kg in a month is possible. I’m taking a tablespoon of Carlson’s fish oil as well as ZMA, don’t know if that makes a difference.
Forgot to mention a few more things:
– I’m 25
– I’m also taking 10,000IU of Vitamin D a day
– Prior to this experiment with eating ~90% clean or more I was eating at 50%-60% clean, or Paleo with a liberal number of cheats added on (think tons of peanut butter and free cookies), and perversely losing weight at faster rate than I am now. However, my performance and recovery wasn’t near what they are with a cleaner diet.
Robb, I am having a major breakdown on the nutrition front. I just finished reading Staffan Lindberg’s website and he takes apart almost everything I thought I knew about nutrition. Here is the link http://www.staffanlindeberg.com/OldAndNew.html
And here are my concerns. I’ve just included the important excerpt here but the whole piece at the link is crucial to read.
1. He states” Hence, there is as yet no strong evidence that a low intake of fruits or vegetables is an independent cause of Western disease” I know fructose in fruit can be problematic, fine. But vegetables? I’ve read so many studies suggesting vegetables are crucial to health for their antioxidant, polyphenol, nutrient action. Most importantly I’ve read many articles and a book stating vegetables are our best defencse against cancer.
2. He states “One of the strongest beliefs held about healthy food is that fatty fish prevents heart disease, and that omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids are the main reason [44, 45]. However, the evidence is not by far as solid as it may seem.” I don’t even need to tell you how that flies in the face of everything I thought I knew.
3.He states ” Although restriction of all types of carbohydrates may provide some benefit for subjects with diabetes type 2, it seems unlikely that dietary carbohydrate is a primary cause of Western disease.” Basically I got that low carb diets are bull and we’re silly for believing they are good for us, unless we’re already diabetic.
4. He states “The Antioxidant story mainly emerged from intriguing hypotheses in molecular biology, but randomized double-blind controlled trials with antioxidants have essentially failed to show any benefit” I honestly believed anti oxidants were beneficial for stopping oxidation of fats in my diet and body so that they don’t wreak havoc on my body. Keeping cholesterol from oxidizing by eating vegetables seems like a good idea.
I just don’t know what to do anymore. What the hell am I supposed to eat? What’s good for me? It’s not grains, dairy, legumes, or vegetable oils. In most cases it’s also not nuts, fruit, or eggs. Now I’ve been told it’s not vegetables, or fish oil either. Oh, and carbs don’t matter anymore either, eat as many as I want. However they can only be tubers. Do I just eat meat and tubers?
Sorry for the long post but I’m falling apart.
Jay-
Will hit this in the podcast. It’s good info, but really changes nothing in practice, just better understanding.
I forgot to mention he also takes apart vitamins and minerals as well. Do I stop taking Vit. D?
Newbie alert
Hi Robb
first up bit of background on me I have gone from doing bjj 3 times aweek and crossfit 3 times aweek plus ashtanga yoga twice aweek this is all from snapping my acl in my right knee.
I’ve had surgery on it and look at getting back to training am looking at starting eatting the paleo way however what would you say are the best books for newbies like me to set me on the right track
I.e
what to eat and when ( I have already cut out milk and sugar)
what’s your take on the whole wheatgrass juice trend
along with taking glucosimine And omega what other supplement will I need.
Am 5’10 weigh 13 stone 5 and not loving my body shape
once again your pod cast have been a great help on other aspects of the paleo way for us uk listners
much love to the podcasts
Danny (Manchester,UK)
Danny-
Will tackle this in the podcast!
Would like to know how the A1c imparts information about the stress response to food. Brief explanation with some references would be great.
Robb,
A client and close friend of mine has just had a tumour removed from his oesophagus, resulting in a partial removal of the stomach and oesophagus. Chemo is treating him like a bitch and as a result he is finding it rather hard to hold down food. His Tumour was the end result of a parasitic infection of the gut, go Giardia! He has become intolerant of gluten in a big way, also to fructose and to most of the nightshades. Would a Beatine HCL Supplement be beneficial. I have been trying to convince him of a paleo style diet to help with this but pseudo science is the devils work and his doctors know better. I have got him to take a ‘beefcake 2000’ PRO:CHO blend just to get some ‘food’ in. He needs to stack on some weight after getting down to 3/5 of bugger all. Any input would be great. Thanks again.
Alan-
it would likely help but he really needs to pass things past his Doc given the change in his GI architecture. it sucks if he is not open to trying things but you can only help the ones who want help.
Hey Robb,
Sorry to bother you when I know you’re busy with the book, but I have a quick and simple question.
I’ve always taken liquid fish oil, today I got my first capsules. I bit into one to test it, it tastes like fish. It’s not slightly fishy as you have mentioned, it’s really strong fish tasting, as in so strong it kind of burned to swallow it. But it wasn’t like I was gagging and choking on it either. So, how bad does it have to taste for it to be rancid?
Chad-Tough to give a perfect answer to that but those sound a bit suspect.
I’ve traded in TGIF for TGIT. Thank God It’s Tuesday! I look forward to these podcats so much, and this is the first website I open on Tuesdays. Fair warning, it will be a sad day if/when a new podcast isn’t posted on Tuesday.
I thought so too. Though I haven’t had any fish burps. Perhaps I’ll chew a few more and see how they taste. Thanks for all your help by the way. I’ve started sleeping better already. Not quite back to normal yet, but much improved. I’m going to stick with the 80% efforts for a few weeks and I’ll give you an update. Thanks again!
Jay,
First quote you listed says that there’s no evidence that Western disease is cause by low vegetable and fruit intake by itself. That’s not to say that high vegetable and fruit intake is bad.
His Omega 3 comment is based off a meta-analysis, a study type that can easily be cherry picked. However, I’m not saying it’s incorrect.
The carbohydrate part of the article seems to me to be a quantity versus quality debate. He’s saying that carbohydrate restriction in its own right does not improve weight loss or fasting insulin/glucose in the long term. This is based off people on the Atkins diet who could easily be eating bread for their minuscule allotment of carbohydrates. In my n=1, low carb eating leaves me feeling full after less food and for a longer time, and I have an especially hard time getting full off pizza (my main cheat item in the past 2 months). To summarize: Low-carb isn’t as important as what carbs you eat.
4: There’s so little information conveyed that I really can’t tell if he means antioxidants have no positive effect at all or if they don’t increase longevity when specifically dosed in lab rats, and I do not feel like reading through the cited study to figure that out.
I really think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill, and I believe you misinterpreted the first quote. Eating vegetables isn’t bad for you, he is simply saying that lack of them doesn’t cause Western diseases. This still all boils down to meat & vegetables, some fruit, nuts, and seeds. As Robb would say, try different things in your n=1 and see how you look, feel and perform.
Robb, I know the timing isn’t perfect with the book and all, but a very good friend of mine was just diagnosed with Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. Is there anything that he can do diet/supplement wise to help aid his condition, give him more energy, alleviate problems involved with radiation, etc.? Thank you so much!
Matthew-
Non-hodgkins has a strong gluten association, but not this variety. I’m not sure if a ketogenic diet will help or not in this situation. It DOES seem to make normal tissue more resistant to chemotherapy, but this is all very new/unexplored stuff.
Hey Robb,
Really diggin the podcasts. One question from #20. You recommend not taking Cod Liver Oil because the Vitamin A (Retinol) has an effect on Vit D somehow. COuld you explain this for me? I’ve only heard good things about CLO and Vit. A from the Weston A Price Foundation and you seem to contradict them. Are the bad effects of Vit. A only present with synthetically added supplements?
Thanks
Quick question about maximizing effectiveness of carb intake on cortisol levels. In a nutshell, if carb intake is restricted sufficiently to require more or less continuous gluconeogenesis to maintain blood sugar, and cortisol is the pathway by which gluconeogenesis is activated, wouldn’t eating close to zero carbs result in continuously elevated cortisol levels?
Likewise, to maximize development of muscle (occuring in reduced cortisol environment) wouldn’t the ideal, though perhaps unattainable, diet be the one that provided JUST enough carbs to nearly eliminate gluconeogenesis, thus generating the lowest levels of cortisol due to diet (all other factors being equal)? Or is my understanding of this simply immature?
Bill-
I LIKE that (will look at this in a podcast as well). this is where free-eating veggies is such a good thing. Quasi-ketogenic seems so beneficial. That said, we do NOT see abnormally high cortisol levels in most folks who follow a ketogenic diet long term. Good thinking though.
Robb…
Whats your take on Greek Yogurt? I’ve been playing around with it after reading a recent post on MDA, I really havn’t had any problems with it as of yet, the full fat Greek Gods style. The only other dairy product i use alot of is the Kerry Gold brand from TJ’s…thats shit is TASTY! the only negative since i’ve been filling my pie hole with the GG’s is some smelly gas..my wife is ready to sleep in a different bed.
Thanks for your show…I’ve been flying the freak flag high in Wisconsin!
Chuck-
If it seems o work for you, go for it. The pro-biotics are great.
Note on Greek Yogurt –
So easy to make your own for 1/4 of the cost.
http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/greek-yogurt/
Robb, second question then: Do you think the process of gluconeogenesis and ketosis are close to a perfect overlap, meaning that if I am in ketosis then I am also undergoing gluconeogenesis? Burning ketones for fuel doesn’t necessarily seem to mean to me that I’m also having to create glucose to elevate blood sugar to maintain it, but perhaps it does.
If that’s the case, and I’m wanting to steadily burn bodyfat while keeping cortisol to a minimum, I would think I’d want to be riding that line between ketosis and not in ketosis. In other words, cycling between turning a Ketostix deep purple and not at all is going to result in elevated cortisol and perhaps some muscle breakdown to feed the gluconeogenesis, whereas just barely being in and out of ketosis would indicate less fat is being broken down but might preserve more muscle and reduce cortisol.
And I suppose another question as well is do the ketone bodies appear when fat is broken down to provide glycerol for gluconeogenesis as well?
Maybe it’s all just one and the same process, I don’t know.
Bill-
Ketosis does not necessarily going to mean high gluconeogenesis and remember, gluconeogenesis is not singularly controlled by cortisol.
Hey Robb,
Been reading about the Okinawans and had a question. They are the longest lived people, have the fewest amount of disease and senility, and maintain the most functionality into old age. It is not uncommon for them to live well into the 90s and sometimes even higher, with no disease and fully self sufficient. The authors have noted that they eat a diet which seems to me to be pretty paleo except for the fact that they consume a pretty large number of whole grains. Given what I know about grains, how is this possible?
Jay-
this is the misconception, they historically did NOT eat much grains. Yams/tubbers (bright orange, nutrient dense) was the norm.
Hey Robb,
With regards to satiety, one of the things that I noticed I feel much more satiety when I eat liver, ever had someone notice that?. I would say I am not carb tolerant, though. I wonder if it heavy dose of vitamin/minerals with it?
Mary
Mary-
never heard that, makes sense.
Hey Robb,
I recently came across this post as quoted from the book “good calories, bad calories”
“Look at this another way. When Bruce Bistrian and George Blackburn instructed their patients to eat nothing byt lean meat, fish, and fowl-650 to 800 calories a day of fat and protein-half of them lost at least forty pounds each. That success rate held true for “thousands of patients” from the 1970s on, Bistrian said. “It’s an extraordinarily effective and safe way to get large amounts of weight loss.” But had they chosen to balance these very low-calorie diets of fat and protein with carbohydrates-say, by adding another 400 calories of “wonderful fruits and vegetables,” as Bistrian phrased it-they would then be consuming the kind of semi-starvation diet that inevitably fails: 1,200 calories evenly balanced between protein, fat, and carbohydrates. “The likelihood of losing forty pounds on that diet is one percent,” Bistrian said.
The bottom line: If we add 400 calories of fat and protein to 800 calories of fat and protein, we have a 1,200-calorie high-fat, carbohydrate-restricted diet that will still result in considerable weight loss. If we add 400 calories of carbohydrates to the 800 calories of fat and protein, we have a balanced semi-starvation diet of the kind commonly recommended to treat obesity-and we reduce the efficacy by a factor of fifty. We now have a diet that will induce forty pounds of weight loss in perhaps one in a hundred patients rather than one in two.”
so if one were looking to lean out, do you think it would be best to drop the green veggies, etc? 50 g carbs comes out to 200 cals, not quite the 400 mentioned here, but I wonder if it may be a factor.
Ian-
I’d keep the veggies. Tough to get 400 cals of veggies!
Robb,
I have to ask now. Just made it through the podcast. On the testosterone replacement therapy, I believe the number given was 315ng/dl, and he’s a 40 year old male. He said his doctor recommended said that was low and wanted him to start testosterone therapy. Thing is…. I’m 350ng/dl at 26 years old and my doc said that was a normal number. Am I missing something? What is the cut off for low T? Thanks Robb!
Chad-
might be some confusion in free vs. total T.
Re Vitamin A in cod liver oil.
The ratio of preformed vitamin A to D is too high – vitamin A blocks the vitamin D
This vitamin D council newsletter looks at some of the studies.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-vitamin-a-and-cancer.shtml
Mercola also explains it here
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/16/warning-new-proof-confirms-if-you-take-this-supplement-vitamin-d-will-not-work-as-well.aspx
Vitamin A excess blocks Vitamin D action:
Here is another Vitamin D council explanation:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2008-december.shtml
On the inedible topic of plastic bags, pollution and endocrine disruption –
Don’t know about rest of Europe but the small wet island(s) of Britain still give away plastic bags at the majority of stores. One of the mainstream (and most expensive) supermarkets and most independent ‘health’ food stores charge for bags (made from corn and they break before you get home), all the others are hanging back on making a decision.
Tend to carry rucksack by default so usually not an issue – can’t see it taking off unless charging is introduced across the board.
Rob will you discuss xenoestrogens (estrogen analogs) at some point?
geoff-
Will do.
Robb, might be interesting to you, adds a nice perspective to the food we eat. (or dont eat)
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm
Holy Cats!
Another awesome episode, guys.
Rob – idea for you: Throw a chapter in your book on paleo for infants/children and even nursing mothers.
My wife and I love when you talk about this in these podcasts as we went paleo right after the birth of our first child. He is eating solids now and is all paleo. Super healthy, no gut irritation, no (excessively) stinky poops. Other kids his age on rice and what not are sickly, have ear infecions, etc. We’re not sure its all paleo related, but in our pseudo-scientific house this is the reason we hang our hat on!
All the best. Looking forward to the book, man.
Farley
Farley-
I touch on this a bit, but I’ll see about fleshing it out a bit.
Hey Robb,
I’m dealing w/ what is most likely high cortisol levels from metcons I believe. I am starting the 531 wendler program tomorrow and I have a couple of questions I’d like your opinion if u don’t mind. First, do you think it would be wise to begin w/ a deload week (coming off mebb for the last two months) and secondly I saw u were doing sprints on the wendler program as he recommends. Do u think that double unders are a suitable substitute without taxing the system like metcons do?
Thank you sir….
Ian
Ian-
I like the time off idea and I REALLY enjoy the sprints. I split time between flat, acceleration work and hill work for conditioning. I rotate in 20-30 min of thai-kicks and bag work if the weather is shite. I like the jump-rope idea but do more than double unders! get some skills and make it fun.
I have a question for the podcast.
Robb and Andy have mentioned a few times about taking digestive enzymes to aid in food absorption. James Fitzgerald also brings this up in his Nutrition 201 DVD. I found this article on Polquin’s website that explains how it works and how to figure out how many pills are required.
http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article.aspx?ID=27
However, I also found this post on T-Nation. Basically debunking the Polquin article.
http://tnation.tmuscle.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/rebuttal_to_charles_poliquins_article_on_stomach_acid_;jsessionid=07F9B13D005ED261C25160C58536A553.hydra
I eat strict paleo, sleep 7.5 to 8.5 hours a night and follow OPTs workouts (so I do have periodization and get proper rest). I am desperate to improve my athletic performance (I missed qualifying for Regionals by 3 spots) and I was hoping that proper food absorption might be my missing link. I did the enzyme test and got the warm feeling at 6 pills (now food super enzymes). So 5 pills each meal is my lucky number.
Long question shortened…Is Polquin right about these enzymes or is the MD from T-Nation right and I am wasting my time?
The new China study. “China becomes world’s new diabetes capital”. Man I never expted to see that headline. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62N66220100324
Tom
Tom-
I saw that. OOPS!
Hey Guys,
Another great show, thought I would throw out an update since iodine came up in the podcast. I am the hockey player that didn’t want to gain weight from podcast 6 or 7. I still weight in the 215 range with around 10% BF however I started uping my carb intake with some yams, potatoes and fruit. Was previously below 50g/day, now not too sure maybe 150+. I also started iodine supplementation. Anyway played in a tournement last week and it was the best I have felt in a year on the ice, at least until the beer consumption caught up to me on day 3(I am getting old). Not sure what turned it around though since I upped carbs for a week with no change then I started the iodine. Pretty close together though so I have confounded any conclusion, just keep rolling with both and see what happens. Thanks for all the work and eagerly anticipating the book.
Scott
Heard this on NPR today….thought you might like it.
Are We Overselling The Sunshine Vitamin?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125226703
Main-site posted the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy’s write-up on the demarcation between “science” and “pseudo-science.” I’ll admit that I didn’t read the whole thing – just thought it was worth sharing!
” ‘Pseudoscience’ and ‘pseudoscientific’ are unavoidably defamatory words (Laudan 1983, 118; Dolby 1987, 204). It would be as strange for someone to proudly describe her own activities as pseudoscience as to boast that they are bad science. Since the derogatory connotation is an essential characteristic of the word ‘pseudoscience’, an attempt to extricate a value-free definition of the term would not be meaningful. An essentially value-laden term has to be defined in value-laden terms. This is often difficult since the specification of the value component tends to be controversial.”
Rob and Andy, THANK YOU for everything you do. Love the podcast, appreciate all the great information, and looking forward to the book.
Thanks again!
Jeffrey
Jeffry-
I had a few folks shoot that to me. I think this is a bit like feminists trying to take back words like C@$T and bitch. The whole thing is ironic on many levels, not the least of which how much people REVEL in the pseudo-science of evolutionary biology and the paleolithic diet. And all this while the Zone is still the preferred point of reference for HQ!
The irony is amazing and they do not even see it.
cool thanks Robb. Are short (under 5 min metcons) a bad idea when recovering from high cortisol (overtrainin) or can I work one or two in per week as long as they are not very long in duration. I am having a hard time giving up fran or as many burpees as possible in 5 min. two of my favorites…..
Ian-
If you really want this stuff to get better do nothing “met-con-esque” for several months. Keep your relative perceived effort in the 75-85% range when you do come back and you will make great progress and not burn out. Intensity is for peaking and or when people need to learn what intensity is. It’s NOT for everyday.
Thanks so much Robb. I will do that for sure. Be sure to let us know when we can pre order that book as I will be the first one in line;)
So since sprints are preferred to metcons when recovering from overtraining, would you want to have full recovery between sprints?
Ian-
yep.
One more Robb, so doing a program like wendler’s 531, even though there are some max effort aspects to it, is cool while trying to get the adrenals and cortisol back in order? Along w/ sleep and solid paleo nutrition of course……and lots of fish oil, magnesium and vid D.
Ian-
it SHOULD be ok, but this is all situation dependent! That “max effort” might need to be 80% still. The point is to make deposits, not withdrawals to the system. You’ve gotta leave something in the tank.