Back with Episode 63. Enjoy!!!
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Show Topics:
- Shrinking Human Brain
- Magical Berry Drinks
- Soy vs Whey Protein
- Low Energy Levels – New to Paleo
- Coffee & Diabetes / Ancestral Fitness Intervals
- Ketones in Urine
- Clinical Studies of Paleo
- “Body By Science” Book
- Gymnastics + Wendler 5 – 3 – 1
- Diet & Adrenal Fatigue
- Vodka
- Blog Post By Steven Novella
- Keystone’s Diet
Show Notes – The_Paleo_Solution_Episode_63
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Ups – I can’t download the shownotes. Page error. Could anybody ficx this? Thanks.
Robb,
When will the ABC Nightline show air?
Not sure yet, should be this week though.
Sorry we didn’t get to meet at CFSB… And that you missed the Paleo Potluck– some good eats were served!
Next time!
John posted a short pre-view that seems to be related: http://bcove.me/jzhrb0jj
Can’t wait for the whole show, hopefully they give it the respect it deserves.
Nice!
Hey guys, could you up the volume for the podcasts?
When I put the volume of my ipod on full I still can’t quite hear you guys.
(And I prefer hearing you guys over two old ladies on the public transport debating where they can buy a sack of potatoes the cheapest)
Ha! will do.
What Tom said. It sounds like you all need to ‘normalize’ the recorded vocals track. Normalization is fairly ubiquitous feature in audio tools these days, so this is probably doable without a major workflow change. I expect that will noticeably improve the podcast’s audio quality for fairly little effort. Please contact me via email if clarification or pointers would be helpful here.
If they do that maybe a little compression as well. Normalising now will only make those annoying clicks and clacks hit 0dbfs while leaving the voices at 60%. They really need an audio tech to give them a few pointers 🙂
I think the main problem is we are doing this over skype, most “real” shows do this in the same room…
Hey Robb, since I can’t reply to your comment I’ll reply up here 🙂
Two words: Post Production. You’re recording this to a computer, you can make these fixes at the same time you make edits.
uhoh, when you click on the shownotes link, you get the “Error 404 – Not Found.”
On the feline front….
I have with success switched my guys over to Orijens… and since they don’t make treats of any kind at the moment I give them the grain free EVO ones…. there was not much in the way of a revolution… previosly I had been giving them Hill Science Diet on recommendation of my vet… I had to bring the bag of the Orijens in as they had never heard of it…
You can check it out here…
http://www.amazon.com/Orijen-Adult-Kitten-Formula-Food/dp/B0019QIXW6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1295364877&sr=8-3
Hey Guys, the show notes link seems to be a dead end. Just FYI.
Figures as soon as I post this that they appear. Thanks.
Hey for some reason I can’t view the show notes, I just get an error saying the file was not found.
Shirt idea:
“The Paleo Solution Experiment:
N=6.89 billion
n=6
Creeping up to statistical significance one listener at a time!”
Just thinking of something funny/geeky, my statistics skills haven’t been used for years though (not sure if what I wrote makes sense), so I’m sure you could come up with something even funnier/geekier.
Great podcast…. as always, thanks for the wonderful info, especially about adrenals as they have been a big topic of research for me lately.
Any idea what a biosig test costs?
really depends.
Been reading up on some things such as `How to Read a Paper: The Basics of Evidence Based Medicine` by Trisha Greenhalgh which inadvertently led me to the blog called Science Based Medicine. They pretty much criticize the hierachy that Evidence Based Medicine uses to evaluate a treatment, which pretty much goes something like:
Meta-Analyses of RCTs
Individual RCTS
Observational Studies
Basic Research
Clinical Experience
They basically argue that Basic research should be at the top and not near the bottom to guide not only clinical treatments but also to guide research.
`I realize that others have said it before here (and probably said it better than I), but we at SBM are not hostile to EBM at all. Rather, we view EBM as incomplete, a subset of SBM. It’s also too easily corrupted to provide an air of scientific legitimacy to fairy dust like homeopathy and reiki. These problems, we argue, can be ameliorated by expanding EBM into SBM. Personally, I suspect that the originators of EBM, as I do (and, I suspect, Simon does), never thought of the possibility of EBM being applied to hypotheses as awe-inspiringly implausible as those of CAM. It simply never occurred to them; they probably assumed that any hypothesis that reaches a clinical trial stage must have good preclinical (i.e., basic science) evidence to support its efficacy. But we know now that this isn’t the case. `
Just some food for thought.
Been reading up on some things such as `How to Read a Paper: The Basics of Evidence Based Medicine` by Trisha Greenhalgh which inadvertently led me to the blog called Science Based Medicine. They pretty much criticize the hierachy that Evidence Based Medicine uses to evaluate a treatment, which pretty much goes something like:
Meta-Analyses of RCTs
Individual RCTS
Observational Studies
Basic Research
Clinical Experience
They basically argue that Basic research should be at the top and not near the bottom to guide not only clinical treatments but also to guide research.
`I realize that others have said it before here (and probably said it better than I), but we at SBM are not hostile to EBM at all. Rather, we view EBM as incomplete, a subset of SBM. It’s also too easily corrupted to provide an air of scientific legitimacy to fairy dust like homeopathy and reiki. These problems, we argue, can be ameliorated by expanding EBM into SBM. Personally, I suspect that the originators of EBM, as I do (and, I suspect, Simon does), never thought of the possibility of EBM being applied to hypotheses as awe-inspiringly implausible as those of CAM. It simply never occurred to them; they probably assumed that any hypothesis that reaches a clinical trial stage must have good preclinical (i.e., basic science) evidence to support its efficacy. But we know now that this isn’t the case. `
Just some food for thought.
Full article link: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=8151
Is anyone else not receiving the podcast album art in iTunes? Andy, do you know what’s up? It’s been like this for as long as I can remember.
Hi guys,
More information about Multi-level Marketing can be found on Pink Truth, a site with Mary Kay as the primary target. They have a great section on why these types of companies are really not worth the money (let alone being a digression from the great healthy lifestyle you’ve adopted through the Paleo Solution!) Work and Family Safe: http://www.pinktruth.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=59&Itemid=93
My dogs prefer freshly shot hares, especially if they are allowed to high-grade the organs before devouring the rest.
The cat seems able to catch and kill her own mice, birds, rats and rabbits.
Truly, the “Paleo Solution”.
No doubt!
I have my dog on Oijen food (high fat no grains) he loves it and we get comments almost every day on how soft his coat is. Paleo puppy!
Rob – My puppy eats Oijen food and loves it, I also mix in
an egg sometimes, and she love sweet potato’s (I stuff them in her
Kong). I love my paleo puppy!
My pups and feline all love Orijen. The pups on it for two
years now and the feline since the day we brought her home in
September. My 15 year old husky looks like she is so much younger.
She is moving slow, but better than any other 15 year old dog I
have ever seen.
Any chance I could score a link to the protein matched metabolic ward studies showing the superiority of low carb to high carb you mentioned?
All I’ve been able to turn up is this:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/55/2/350.full.pdf
which showed no difference, or other ones I’ve seen were short time (<7 days) and used scale weight to measure body comp, so low carb looked better due to water and glycogen shifts.
Cheers.
which one is that in reference to?
That one is in reference to the only metabolic ward study I could find with protein matched and a long enough duration to account for water/glycogen shifts in the low carb group, and it showed no difference. You mentioned metabolic ward studies showing low carb trumping high carb (can’t remember exactly where in the podcast, but I think it was when you were talking about the skeptic guy) and I was just wondering if I could get a link to them?
Thanks.
Robb,
You have been talking a lot about how endurance athletes may need to have more carbohydrate after training to avoid overwhelming the body into some sort of severe stress response. I train up to 30 hours a week (run, bike, swim) during parts of my training cycles. besides the fact that I literally survive the high volume weeks by constantly overfeeding myself, are there any supplements that you think could be benificial to deal with the stress response?
Forskolin?
Mega dosage of fish oil? like 1/4 cup per day?
Sodium Stabilized R-lipoic acid? (Sodium R-Lipoate)?
or any other suggestions?
Thanks – Tim
So, what I heard was vodka is ok? 🙂
Over half way done with the Whole 30 and have a wonderful sleep story. I can’t thank you all enough!
Trish (CFSW)
Loved Robb’s comments about the professional skeptics.
David Hume, after attending a meeting of some kind of skeptics’
society, said something funny: “The problem was, they left through
the door rather than the window.” These guys turn into fulltime
naysayers, but somehow they never turn the light of skepticism
around to look into their own intentions and methodologies. A
cautionary tale if ever there was one! Great podcast!
Hey, thanks for the good words, guys. The CZT (think Critical Zone Training) equipment that we use at Efficient Exercise in Austin, Texas is actually an electro-mechanical design that allows for a maximized and instantaneous accommodating resistance at each point over the entire strength curve, in both the concentric and eccentric portion of the movement. You really have to ride the CZT pony to feel the true nature of its effect. Is CZT technology the end-all-be-all? No. But it’s one hellova tool for the ol’ Physical Culture tool shed 🙂 I’ll never give up the black iron and/or bodyweight stuff; I just have an additional arrow in the old quiver of Physical Culture tricks now.
Here’s a clip of me saddled into the beast. Efficient Exercise’s version of the Pro Bull Riding Circuit 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fWtH-LtAso
ciao,
Keith
Hey robb, hope im not too late in commenting here to get a response on this but in this podcast (which was terrific as always) you mention GLA towards the end. You say “five to fifteen miligrams per day as a baseline.” I just want to make sure that that is what you meant to say. The reason I’m double checking is that on all the GLA-containing supplements I can find, and on the Evening Primrose Oil (from royal brittany) that i’m taking now the amounts of GLA are in low 100s, for example this EPO has 117 mg of GLA per pill. There is indeed 1300 mg of the EPO itself in the same pill but of course only a small percentage of that would be the sought-after GLA.
Although strict paleo for over one year (and loving it by the way), i still suffer with zits at 31 years of age. Sucks. Never tried or heard of GLA before you started talking about and finally started but i just wanna make sure im not either overdosing or taking an amount that won’t actually do much of anything. (side thing i wonder if you may cover ever: i happen to be making great progress with ripp’s starting strength. Could increased T levels from the weight training be the culprit behind my white head bastards?)
In response to feeding pets a raw diet:
I have successfully been feeding both cats & dogs raw for 10+ years. My cats were switched from kibble to raw. At first they put up a fight. However, after using a little hunger on my side they did come around. I had first switched to feeding them kibble meals instead of freefeeding and then switched the meals to raw. Originally I had bought a premade raw food which included veggies and perhaps fruit. I had no success with this. I ended up grinding my own food and since cats are obligate carnivores they have no use for veggies and fruit. The mix I made was based on chicken legs with some added liver and hearts and some supplements. They eventually LOVED that mix.
Dogs are much easier to switch over and far less picky i’ve found. My dogs pretty much follow the B.A.R.F. diet popularized by Ian Billinghurst.
Rob – you often suggest that folks get checked out by a naturopath or functional medicine doc. How do I go about finding one that is paleo-friendly. I’ve known a lot of “alternative” practitioners who have their own take on nutrition/healing & would rather not have to struggle to convince a doc or shop around randomly. Is there a list of paleo-friendly practitioners, or would you consider creating one? Is there someone you recommend in SoCal (in or near Irvine would be ideal)?
You ask them: “thoughts on the paleo diet?” If they blather on about the China Study youjust kepe shopping. AND the Physicians Network site is almost done.
Woods: try these sites. functionalmedicine.org
holisticmedicine.org ahha.org aoa-net.org
I just got a bottle of natural calm and went straight for
the full dose because I’m crazy like that, omg this stuff is like
zen in a bottle! I took it after dinner and felt totally mellowed
out after. Placebo effect maybe? also woke up feeling more
refreshed than I can remember, great stuff! lol@magical berry
juice, that’s what I say when my friend drinks that crap
now
In this episode you mention supplements to handle your cortisol profile. But you didn’t specify!
I know the key to managing cortisol is sleep and proper diet but I’m strict paleo and can’t get around working 80hrs a week.
thanks in advance!
Doc-
I’ll do a write-up on this. the problem is some of the sups suppress cortisol, if you have someone who is on the backside of this and cortisol is diminishing it can worsen their situation.
Hi Guys,
Anyone know of the show date yet?
Cheers
this week, not sure beyond that! Will post as soon as I know more.
Hello Rob and Andy
I started doing paleo about 2 weeks ago, unmeasured, but I tracked it on fitday just to see the numbers. I already knew that almonds didn’t agree with me, they aggravated fibromylagia type muscle pain and knotting, so I decided to start off without any nuts or nut oils. According to fitday I am consistently low on vit. e, about 50% of recommended, and am wondering how much this matters. In fact, I don’t know who that recommendation is for, maybe I don’t need the average, as I’m pretty short and female. I’m eating lots of other fats, about 50% of my diet which is around 2400 calories. I’m 5’3, 200 lbs and I’ve had chronic fatigue for 15 years.
Thanks for all of your work, it’s been incredibly helpful. I’ve done lots of reading trying to figure out how to get healthy, and I’ve tried a gazillion diets and supplement etc etc. and your podcasts really nailed down some stuff for me, and I have already shown some progress. I’m down a few pounds, I’m not as hungry, and my resting heart rate has dropped an incredible 30 beats/minute.
You guys are awesome!
Trina-
I would not be too concerned with that vit-E. if we get some fish, grass fed meat or a few other goodies in there it will be fine. Thank you for the update, this is good stuff!
Hi Guys
i tunes only has up to episode 57 for download any idea when the latest ones will be on there?
cheers
just a quick question,
regarding a question from pod cast 59, i know its from a few pod cast ago, sorry.
-10b. What Supplements if All Meat was Grain-Fed 58.16
with the 2 supplements you recommended, how much per day of each?
cheers
pitts
alpha lipoic acid, magnesium? Look in the FAQ, i think it’s in there.
To the man that asked the question:
I did the 5/3/1 + static holds (it’s on my youtube under OrtProd)
It’s very heavy on the CNS so I don’t recommend doing it for longer than 1, maybe 2, cycles (6 weeks) if you decide to do it. Tempo and quality matter, be consistent.
Show Topics:
Shrinking Human Brain 5.57
Magical Berry Drinks 12.42
Soy vs Whey Protein 17.17
Low Energy Levels – New to Paleo 20.54
Coffee & Diabetes / Ancestral Fitness Intervals 23.07
Ketones in Urine 30.44
Clinical Studies of Paleo 32.31
“Body By Science” Book 34.04
Gymnastics + Wendler 5 – 3 – 1 42.28
Diet & Adrenal Fatigue 50.02
Vodka 53.13
Blog Post By Steven Novella 55.35
Keystone’s Diet 1.04.11