The final episode of 2010. Thank you for all your support this year!
Download a transcript of Episode 60
Show Topics:
- Concern About Total Cholesterol
- Replacement for Eggs & Nuts
- Why Are Nuts Okay?
- Iron Deficiency
- Magnesium Citrate
- Benefits / Risks of Crossfit Group Training
- Back-off Weeks
- T.S. Wiley?
- Tea Oil
- Thoughts on Using Only Fish As Protein Source
- Sunlamps / Alcohol / Dating
- Thoughts on Crossfit Following Significant Weight Loss
Show Notes – The_Paleo_Solution_Episode_60
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Eric W says
Hey guys,
Writing this from the Minneapolis airport — here’s to hoping I make it home today!
I have a good follow-up question to #1. After following paleo 100% at home, 90% in social situations for the past 6 months, I got my bloodwork done (ordering the tests you recommended). Unfortunately I have no baseline to compare against, so I have no idea what the directionality of things are. My LDL was 212 (Type A), VLDL 24, HDL 69, Trigs 90, A1C 5.1, CRP 0.26. Based on my interpretation, these are great but I should shoot for A1C below 5, and trigs just a touch lower.
The question mark in my mind is the LDL number. I’ve seen other folks at PaleoHacks with similar results (often with LDLs >200, though every other marker looks good). How would you interpret this? Totally harmless? I don’t have FH, but what about those who do? I understand that having too much LDL sit around in the blood can risk oxidation. Would love to hear your thoughts and will pass them back to the appropriate Paleohacks threads.
Thanks and happy new year!
-Eric W
Bob Crason says
Eric,
I’m interested in your questions as well. This is a key topic that no one seems to have great answers for. Did you follow the links at the top of this page to send this to “Submit a question” for their podcast?
I, too, am a guy with “high” LDL but otherwise pretty darn good numbers. Maybe I need to stop concerning myself with such things and simply live, but I’m curious, much like you.
Robb Wolf says
I see a flow-chart for this in the future.
Eric W says
Perfect — I’ll keep an eye out for it. It would be wonderful to have a good answer for this since there are folks in my family that are “on the fence” about this stuff (you know how family is — but I’ve made a lot of headway) and were waiting to see how my blood lipids turned out. I anticipate seeing my LDL so high is going to make those folks kind of sheepish, even though they’re aware of the type A/B distinction, because of the extensive brainwashing they have undergone with their cardiologist. Personally, I’m curious about the high LDL, but I’m look/feel/performing better than ever so will keep trucking along. Six months from now I’ll do an NMR instead of a VAP to get some more granularity.
Though I’m looking for a general answer, if it adds anything to the discussion I’m a 24 y/o male, 6’1, 165 lbs. Family has a history of longevity on one side and heart attacks on the other.
Ben Wheeler says
This is a good article about why cholesterol/Trigs may be a bit high at first.
http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/why-is-my-cholesterol-so-high-on-this-diet.html
Raj says
Ratios >>>>> Absolute numbers!
You guys need to understand that the whole cholesterol thing is a cyclic system. LDL takes cholesterol to cells, organs etc… HDL removes the cholesterol from cells, organs etc. It’s a cycle. At any point of time cholesterol is being cycled in the body. So as long as your HDL is high, a higher LDL number ain’t dangerous. Eric, for example, has an LDL of 212, a HDL of 69 and a LDL/HDL of 3. This is pretty darn good considering the healthy range is under 3.5. In addition to this, Eric’s triGs are under 100 and his LDL pattern is A (which is big and fluffy). I’d say this is pretty perfect. Nothing to worry about.
For reference, my LDL is ~ 180 and my HDL is ~ 80. Sure my total cholesterol is ~ 280 and it’s something my doc would go “holy shittttt… i’m going to save you with this statin!” about… but then my ratios are pretty darn good and my triGs are ~50. So I ain’t gonna sweat about this.
If you need more people to tell you the same shit… read Dr. Eades or Stephen Guyenet or look into Marksdailyapple forums.
Hope this helps.
Raj says
Robb – You need to dedicate a blog post to this and clear this out! A lot of people get really worried about this and I think it will help them sleep better if it came from you! Just a thought.
– Raj
Bob Crason says
Raj,
Thanks for your reply. I mean it. That’s good stuff.
At the same time, what makes any of us so sure that these few, select guys have it right? I’m not trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary. I’m able to find studies online by serious researchers who are really smart people that say something that is essentially different than the people you cite say. Again, not trying to sound like a jerk or anything.
I realize that a lot of the “paleo online community” likes to belittle, reduce, insult, etc., opposing findings and viewpoints, but I can tell you that I’m just some average guy of average intelligence with a non-science background. The stakes seem potentially pretty high, so I’m back to asking who the heck knows.
Robb Wolf says
Bob-
throw that research out there! All I can tell you is this fits both the research AND what I have seen from WORKING with people.
And I’ll take you to task here… because someone else has a contrary opinion we just throw our hands up and have no idea where to go? that’s a sad state of affairs, we can do better.
Bob Crason says
That would be great, Robb. Thanks for all of your efforts. I think you’re making a real difference for people.
Matt Lentzner says
LDL is almost as ridiculous as Total Cholesterol IMO. You’ve got a calculated value of dubious accuracy that can contain both good and bad versions of the type. The case against hypercholestrolemia is so flimsy it is laughable. I choose to completely ignore it.
I think you can get all the information you need from Trigs, A1Cs and C-reactive proteins. Your metabolic health can be summed up quite simply as how diabetic are you. A1C is the most direct measure of that.
Robb Wolf says
I tend to agree, and you know what is interesting? I cannot find A1c’s in folks doing crossfit on a consistent basis that is below 5.
Matt Lentzner says
Do you think this is a result of Crossfit (over)training? Do chronic high cortisol levels raise average blood sugar even if the diet is dialed in?
Robb Wolf says
Yes.
Matt Lentzner says
Will overtraining show up as elevated CRP levels as well?
Always wondered about that. It makes sense to me that it would.
Also, ref the high average blood sugar of CF’ers. This implies that
they are burning protein instead of having it available for muscle
building. Does this explain the muscle-wasting effects of
LSD?
Diane @ Balanced Bites says
My nutrition teacher was thinking that below 5 might be too low – and as with all of our systems it’s about being in a balanced place rather than always wanting something to be high or low. What’s the risk there do you think, Robb? She had me sort of thinking right around 5 is a good place to be. Clearly those CrossFitting a lot might be pushing up blood sugar as a result of that activity so that makes sense that they’d not have a # below 5…
Matt- lots of good questions 🙂
Rob says
Robb, Andy, Eric,
I am in the same boat, my numbers are almost identical to yours with the exception of my LDL (calculated) are 330. Would love to hear your thoughts? I think the Diet Heart and the cholesterol hypothesis are bunk, so I have continued to go down the Paleo path.
Thanks
Rob
Robb Wolf says
calculated values are just shy of worthless, we need direct measures.
Diane @ Balanced Bites says
Chris Kresser has a great blog with a TON of posts (a series I believe) on cholesterol on it. I’d recommend checking that out as well. He’s a paleo advocate as well and is legit.
http://www.thehealthyskeptic.org
http://thehealthyskeptic.org/heartdisease
Raj says
What are your triGs? If they are below 100 then you will have to use the Iranian equation to calculate LDL (instead of the Friedwald equation). You can do the calc here – http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~geoff36/LDL_mg.htm
Diane @ Balanced Bites says
I find that guys respond well to the expression “eating like a caveman” vs Paleo Diet. That generally works pretty well. If a man isn’t interested in eating a load of meat with me, he can hit the pavement.
This was a fun podcast. Your seafood-based dieter might like my latest recipe: http://www.balancedbites.com/2010/12/easy-recipe-grain-free-salmon-cakes.html
Happy New Year guys!!!
D
Matt Lentzner says
I love meat. My wife is a vegetarian. Yeah, that works out about as well as you imagine it does.
Desperately seeking a carnivorous mistress with a bodyweight squat 🙂
Best Traits Procreate says
Dear Andy and Robb,
If you read the full post on Progenex from Brian’s blog, please be sure to read through the comments. There is a really good dialog back and forth between Brian and the Dr. that is helping him develop some “magic” shakes, on post workout nutrition that I think warrants discussion on your podcast maybe.
Thanks,
Daniel
Tom R. says
Robb and Andy,
Tom here from Question 3. Thank you for taking time to respond. To answer your question about being grain (gluten), legume, dairy free, I have all of this out of the diet EXCEPT the light beer I allow myself at dinner. Damn it. Redbridge here I come. As fyi, my latest blood test also showed a low eGFR (kidney function) reading. Dr. Google indicates anemia can result from a reduced kidney function, but this would not explain lowered iron levels.
Thanks again.
Tom
Bob Crason says
I’m certainly a nobody, but please don’t overlook caffeine intake as potential iron factor.
Tom R. says
Interesting. I had never done that google M.D. search
before. I only get about 3 cups of coffee a day, but I’m certainly
willing to consider everything. My assessment is that Robb is
probably correct and that I damaged my gut with a few years of
significant stress and oatmeal intake.
Diane @ Balanced Bites says
Tom- OATMEAL?! You’re fired! ;o)
Ehayes says
I am also in the higher cholesterol category since being Paleo for years. Like others said, I feel, look and perform better. I haven’t had a detailed panel done so I know this doesn’t help the conversation much. In my experience basing blood numbers off of donating blood is a mistake. They are not accurate. I am curious about cholesterol variances.
Jscott says
You two missed the boat on a PaleoDating franchise. Great podcast.
Robb Wolf says
I never seem to do the easy stuff.
Mary says
I thought the dating advice was pretty much spot on, although I don’t at all have a problem with using the word “paleo” when I do feel the need to mention my eating style to anyone. I will mention it but never insist on explaining it or anything. A lot of people around me are pretty amazed at the transformation in my energy levels/looks, so I figure if they are ready to be inspired, at least that way they can look it up on the Internet (why waste my time explaining it all when Robb has already done all the hard work ;-).
I do have one additional idea for the listener who asked the dating question. One way to pique a man’s interest in the paleo lifestyle (without turning him off with a bunch of blah blah about nutrition) would be to simply say that the paleo lifestyle has been proven to perform one’s performance IN EVERY REALM (and say it with a hint of smile ;-))))))
Matt Lentzner says
My opinion is that the most pressing need of any novice is strength. Crossfit is pretty lousy at developing that. Scale all you want, but you’re just spinning your wheels.
If you are a novice, doing a strength program (like Rippetoe’s Starting Strength) will make you better at Crossfit than doing Crossfit would have. I noticed pretty early on that almost all the “firebreathers” were already strong before they even started Crossfit.
Once you become an intermediate (have some strength, can do the movements properly, no longer can make linear strength gains) then you can get a lot out of Crossfit. Even so, 1-2 ~3-7 min METCONs a week is plenty for most people.
I agree with you, Robb. I looked at the old WODs posted from the early days and they were pretty good. Nowadays it more like BODs (Beatdown of the day). Did you notice how the posting traffic on the mainsite WODs is way down from about two years ago? Crossfit has grown a lot since then yet there’s less than a quarter of the posts. Does anyone even do these workouts anymore except for the few who unfortunately don’t know any better?
Robb Wolf says
Spot on Sir. Spot on.
Chula says
Robb,
I completely agree with you on how to format your gym to cater to the beginner. Unfortunately, it is terribly difficult to find a facility that trains the way you seem to at Norcal. My local CF affiliate had a 4 hour “on-ramp” session on the weekend and then you start off in the regular classes on Monday.
Robb Wolf says
Terrible idea, some affilaites get that, others do not.
Trey Potter CSCS says
Great episode guys. Entertaining and informative! I just have a comment for the guy that was 510 pounds and dropped the weight. Great freaking job man! I know you probably can’t give me his name or anything but if either Robb or Andy could let him know that if he’s got facebook or wants to hit me up with an email I would love to help out in any way possible. He probably doesn’t live in my are (Kansas) but even if it’s just for some outside support or anything I would be more then happy to help out however I can. Keep it coming guys!
Bill says
I was just thinking while listening that I would love to hear a 15-20 min “Lightning Podcast”. Just short questions and even shorter, ruder answers.
Andy: Next question from Frank, “I’ve been about 80% paleo for fou…”
Robb: Call me when you’re 100%, next question!
Andy: This one’s from June, “I can’t kick the grains, I try..”
Robb: Just stop eating grains idiot, next QUESTION!
Andy: Alright, from Tom, “I’m supplementing with hydrated-oxidized-sulfuricacid, how much…”
Robb: Why are you so stupid, NEXT QUESTION!!
On second thought, that might not be a good idea…
Robb Wolf says
OH! that sounds fun!
Ron says
I second the idea. You can call the segment “Mad Paleo”
with Robb Wolf.
Steve says
“Poking the Bear Paleo”
Mary says
Rob and Andy,
Just wanted to thank your so much for answering my question (about starting Crossfit as an older participant). Your comments were very helpful!
In fact, I had already decided to just give it a shot (I’m not one of those types afraid to do that ;-). The gym has what they call a mandatory “Phase 1” (similar to what you call an “on ramp”) which consists of 4 beginners classes that allow for more individual attention (enrollment is limited to 4 people). So, I’ve done my first phase 1 class. I got a very good vibe from the trainer, and yes Andy, it did look like a warehouse–but I like that! I was sore that evening (but definitely not crushed) and I felt great the next day.
The gym does offer personal training. I had previously not considered that (no group atmosphere + too expensive) but after having heard your ideas I’ve decided that I will go that route (at least for awhile) if that’s what seems appropriate for me after I finish the Phase 1.
As for the No Java Challenge, I was listening to the podcast in the supermarket and I had coffee filters and 35% cream in my cart (for decaf of course, which I still binge on now and then). But when Andy said he was kicking all caffeine (including decaf coffee) I just went and put those filters and cream back on the shelf! If Andy can do it, so can I! I just have one question: is dark chocolate included in this????
Mary
Robb Wolf says
Mary-
You might try to get some friends to do the privates…less $$ for you. Great way to get going.
karameez says
Hey Mary,
Who was teaching the Phase 1 class at CrossFit Montreal?
You should find out if they offer a choice of workouts each day cause I found it sucks to pay a ton of money and not be allowed to use the gym/equipment to work on YOUR goals, strengths, weaknesses, etc.
Just be well informed about what is acceptable and if it is aligned with YOUR needs and schedule, before signing up.
Luke says
I always enjoyed the CF related questions. Or simply training related.
The funny thing to me is how CF is always preached as being ‘scaleable’ as a key selling point. Can anyone tell me a single sport or fitness mode that ISNT? A beginner in Oly lifting can use a 10lb bar and training plates, a beginner PL or BB uses light weights, a beginner zumba uses more basic steps, a beginner in tennis might play half court and so on. The idea that every sport and fitness mode in existence throws you in the deep end EXCEPT cf due to it’s incredible ‘scaleability’ is laughable, as CF gyms seem to be notorious for throwing people in the deep end and not scaling when they should, hence the huge amount of rhabdo, crippling DOMS and injury rate than new trainees often see.
Robb Wolf says
Well, like so much of it…it’s been a remarkably effective re-branding of the obvious in many ways.
Ben says
I’m the guy from the last question of 2010. You asked me to follow up with you, so here it goes.
I started training with a local crossfit on their grand opening. Since they’re brand new, most classes only have 2-5 people working with up to 4 trainers. Our equipment is limited, but the atmosphere is great and after only a few weeks of training I feel better than I have in years. I’m only going twice a week for now, but supplementing with lots of walking.
I have a few more questions if you don’t mind.
1. How far do freezing temps kill healthy bacteria? I found a local place that carries homemade sauerkraut, but it only comes frozen. I also ordered a bottle of Primal Defense that was partially frozen when I pulled it from my mailbox. Will I get any worthwhile benefit from these items?
2. Following particularly brutal workouts I’ve been having issues with leg cramps. It’s really hard to recover when you have to wake up twice in the middle of the night to walk off leg cramps. What could be causing this and how can I prevent it?
3. Is dry mouth common with eating low carb paleo? I’ve been at this for close to 2 months now and the dry mouth has slowly gotten better but still remains. Some days I wake up and have skin peeling from the inside of my mouth. My doctor suggested putting lime in my water to stimulate saliva, which helps but doesn’t completely fix the issue. I’m drinking a ton of water but my body doesn’t seem to be retaining enough. I literally don’t think I could drink any more water than I am now. I’m getting at least 1.5 gallons a day. This was an issue before I started crossfit. Should I try increasing my sodium? I currently don’t use salt in any of my cooking. This is coming from a former salt addict.
Thanks!
ProfDrAndro says
both leg cramps and Angular Cheilitis (cracking sores at the sides of your mouth) are signs of vitamin (sores) or mineral (cramps) deficiencies. For the Angular Cheilitis its mostly Iron & B-Vitamins, the cramps are often ascribed to magnesium, in fact taking additional magnesium often worsens those episodes, because it drives sodium even lower and eventually sodium is what keeps you hydrated. Do you supplement magnesium? YES? Do you avoid high sodium foods? YES? > here we are cramping and dehydrated.
ProfDrAndro says
I did forget: There is also a very recent dissertation looking into the effect of sodium chloride (i.e. table salt) supplementation to athletes. Pretty interesting and especially important in view of the unwarranted stigmatization salt is receiving in the media (internet included)
ProfDrAndro says
stupid me – the link > http://gradworks.umi.com/34/29/3429019.html
Diane @ Balanced Bites says
I don’t know if it applies to sauerkraut as well, but when I asked Mark McAfee the question about freezing raw milk and retaining healthy bacteria he said it did- only heating kills it. So… I might conclude the same of the kraut and say it’s going to still be beneficial. An educated guess there.
Also, re: dry mouth- if you get into ketosis, this can be a common side effect. I don’t know what your carb intake is like, but if it’s been very low, this is a possibility. Do you use salt in your cooking? I know that table salt isn’t Paleo per se, but a good celtic sea salt that’s not processed and contains many trace minerals may be helpful for you. I’m a big fan of Redmond’s Real Salt. You can find it online and in any decent health food store/Whole Foods.
musajen says
For cramps, I’ve heard both magnesium and/or potassium deficiencies can be contributors. My experience has been that potassium helps with cramping, and magnesium helps with muscle twitches or irregular heartbeats. On sodium, I read (I think it was in the 6-week Cure for the Middle-Aged Middle by Mike & Mary Dan Eades) that low carb diets tend to be low-sodium already and low-carb diets tends to flush sodium out of the body along with excess fluids. So it may be necessary to use salt regularly in your cooking. I’m hoping Robb will address this more.
On a personal note, big congrats on your progress and for continuing to challenge yourself/up your game. I’m a 5’8 female weighing in past the 300 lb mark (soon to be under) and I just started up in Jukite Jujistu this past fall at my local YMCA. I love it and my instructor is very encouraging and good about teaching modifications for my size. The class is small and the atmosphere relaxed. It’s challenging and I always leave happily exhausted – especially when we play with knives, spar, or work in a little grappling. 🙂
All of that to say, martial arts is definitely a possibility, even at my size. I think the key is finding the right instructor and class setting.
Scott says
Quesitons not about this podcast! 1. PODCAST 56 Quesiton:
What would be an expected rate of weight loss if someone is
“following the program”? I will assume the weight loss is
non-linear. The two testimonials from the book would suggest around
2 lbs/wk early on when there is water shifts and the initial stages
of reversing bad habits. I would guess around 0.5 – 1 lb/wk long
term (7 – 18 months). Specifically, I need to drop around 80 lbs
and want to make sure my goals for 2011 are realistic. 2. Where
would something like the Norcal ON-RAMP program published in
Performance Menu fit into the general exercise perscription from
Paleo Solutions? Thanks! Scott
Sarah says
Hi Robb and Andy,
Thank you SO much for taking the time to answer my question regarding using fish as my primary protein source. I appreciate your reminder about wild caught fish. I am relieved but kind of surprised to hear you say that nothing would be lost by not eating poultry and red meat. Aren’t there a number of nutritional benefits that are gained from poultry and red meat that cannot be gained from fish? Or maybe supplements are sufficient? Eating only fish feels quite a bit better for me for many reasons but I want to ensure that I am eating for optimal performance (personal training to gain strength and lose weight, crossfit, busy lifestyle, etc), health, and longevity. Thanks for your thoughts!
Sarah
Sarah says
Hi Rob and Andy,
In regard to my comment above…
I have a real emotional disconnect with eating land animals but over the years I have always heard that they are really important for nutrition. I also got this sense from your book. In your podcast answer you say that “nothing would be lost” by omitting land animals and using only fish as my primary protein source. I don’t mean to beat a dead horse here but I find that so hard to believe. As a long time vegetarian and a more recent pescetarian I want it to be true (I really do), but if I am striving for optimal nutrition for performance and longevity, is strictly fish truly JUST as good as fish with land animals? What I’m looking for is scientific evidence on this matter. If strictly fish is just as good, I will gladly go about my merry fish eating ways 🙂 But I want to be absolutely sure that I am eating in the way that is best for my body.
Trainer Rueben wants to know if neurotransmitters like serotonin (for mood, etc) are made from amino acids like L-Tryptophan that are mostly found in land animal proteins. If this is true than wouldn’t I be eating for less than optimal health if I stick to just fish? Also, are there not any other cofactors in red meat such as creatine that are important for performance?
Any thoughts would be SO appreciated!
Thanks,
Sarah
Rueben says
Ok Sarah,
I should have googled it before I suggested it. Here it is, it’s kind of more all over the board than I thought what foods are rich in L-tryptophan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan
I still have a gut feeling that “optimal” health and performance would come from a variety of animals, but not not animal crackers.
I also have seen plenty of people, bodybuilders,fighters,etc who use the same foods over and over again for wt. cutting for extended period of times show up with some level level of food intolerance/allergies when tested. Dr.Eric Serrano has stated that he sees this with whey protein powders all the time, but that may be for some other reasons related to the state of dairy quality and the issues with dairy in general.
Crazy Paul Chek says in regards to food choices and building up some kind of tolerance to those foods
“If you love it, rotate it” I love fish but I would grow tired of rotating even the same 4 or so fish.
Robb, Sarah needs/wants a hard science, bad ass, non-sugar coated answer:) please, pretty please.
Envision if you will a passionate longtime vegetarian client(Sarah) that you have been gently prodding(beating) into omnivore submission for a year, she finally buys said current guru’s book(Robb),along with The Vegetarian Myth, has tasted animal flesh since she has posted this question,(Don’t worry Sarah, you vegan friends don’t read this blog), and understandably so still feels quite conflicted about it and then you tell her ” ah just fish is cool”… she freaked!!
She came in the day after the podcast and gave me the same look after Luke Skywalker found out that Darth Vader was his father!!
Tequila in en route to Chico.
Thanks
Rueben
Robb Wolf says
Dig it, thank Reuben.
ProfDrAndro says
I think this is interesting news for all listeners and the Duo-Infernale = Robb + Andy. Finally, we have a model predicting how much and at what times we may take our FAVORITE DRUG > CAFFEINE!
*** QUOTE ***
J Theor Biol. 2010 Dec 19. [Epub ahead of print]
Incorporation of caffeine into a quantitative model of fatigue and sleep.
Puckeridge M, Fulcher BD, Phillips AJ, Robinson PA.
School of Physics, University of Sydney, New South Wales 2006, Australia.
Abstract
A recent physiologically based model of human sleep is extended to incorporate the effects of caffeine on sleep-wake timing and fatigue. The model includes the sleep-active neurons of the hypothalamic ventrolateral preoptic area (VLPO), the wake-active monoaminergic brainstem populations (MA), their interactions with cholinergic/orexinergic (ACh/Orx) input to MA, and circadian and homeostatic drives. We model two effects of caffeine on the brain due to competitive antagonism of adenosine (Ad): (i) a reduction in the homestatic drive and (ii) an increase in cholinergic activity. By comparing the model output to experimental data, constraints are determined on the parameters that describe the action of caffeine on the brain. In accord with experiment, the ranges of these parameters imply significant variability in caffeine sensitivity between individuals, with caffeine’s effectiveness in reducing fatigue being highly dependent on an individual’s tolerance, and past caffeine and sleep history. Although there are wide individual differences in caffeine sensitivity and thus in parameter values, once the model is calibrated for an individual it can be used to make quantitative predictions for that individual. A number of applications of the model are examined, using exemplar parameter values, including: (i) quantitative estimation of the sleep loss and the delay to sleep onset after taking caffeine for various doses and times; (ii) an analysis of the system’s stable states showing that the wake state during sleep deprivation is stabilized after taking caffeine; and (iii) comparing model output successfully to experimental values of subjective fatigue reported in a total sleep deprivation study examining the reduction of fatigue with caffeine. This model provides a framework for quantitatively assessing optimal strategies for using caffeine, on an individual basis, to maintain performance during sleep deprivation.
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Ravi says
Robb & Andy,
Congrats on a successful 2010! I am looking forward to the new stuff you guys have cookin’ for 2011. Last couple podcasts have been great, and the book was pretty much perfect.
My question for the podcast is about programming a training routine with an erratic schedule. It has a bit of a background, but I was just hoping for some high-level tips on how to program for my situation.
I graduated college in May and I work at an investment bank now. I work something between 80-100 hours a week. Mornings starts between 9-10AM and I will stay as late as necessary (could be 2AM or could be 6AM). Will work weekends but have a bit more flexibility in hours.
Before I started work, I did a stint of Starting Strength. Since I started working though, I have been trying to find a flexible training routine to use. When I work out, I will wake up at 6AM and go to the gym. It all depends on sleep, so some weeks I don’t workout, other weeks I may be able to get to the gym four mornings.
What programming would be best for me in this type of situation? I’ve been scaling my routines and dropping the intensity down, but any routine I find requires some degree of consistency.
Not sure if you had any creative ideas. Goals are pretty simple: first priority is just to do the minimum exercise to hold onto the bulk of my strength and to be healthy. If I can make some small gains, I’m willing to try, but maintenance is the name of the game for me.
Background: 150 lbs, male, ~200lb squat, 250lb deadliest, 150lb bench (my old numbers before I started working). I’m still a novice lifter. Diet is a grain-free, dairy-free paleo diet. Started 45 days of perfect paleo eating without cheats a few days ago. Normally though, I cheat over the weekends with some drinking (I try to keep it in check). Supplement with fish oil and vitamin D and NatCalm. Diet is dialed in and I’m pretty strict. Sleep can be 1-9 hours. I’ll do anything I can to get more hours of sleep,but average 4 hours a night.
Thanks for everything you do, guys.
Ravi
Luke says
I think you should google dan john’s ‘One Lift a Day’
program. It’s an excellently program. The rep and set scheme
changes each week but the exercises stay the same for 4 or so weeks
until you swap them, but you just pick say 3-4 exercises (assuming
3-4 days of exercise), and follow the sets and reps for that week.
Of course you need to pick ‘bang-for-your-buck’ exercises, so you
might pick snatch, back squat, bench press and weighted chinup. Or
deadlift, front squat, press and seated row. This creates a lot of
simplicity and flexibility. Workouts take 30-45 minutes and due the
low volume, high intensity is good for strength
maintenance.
Ravi says
Thanks Luke. Will take a look at this. Appreciate the
recommendation!
Donnie from CC says
Liking the new site!!
Ron says
Robb and Andy: thanks for all you guys do. Sometimes you will get questions/comments from bloggers that put your panties in a bind. Guys, don’t sweat the small stuff. Just venture on over to Gary Taube’s new blog site. There’s some serious venom being spewed over there. Why do you think we haven’t had a new blog from Kurt Harris in months? He probably got tired of the BS that went along with blogging. Anyhoo, have a great New Years and I look forward to your podcasts in 2011.
Rob says
Robb & Andy,
Costco has gone Paleo! They have a carne asada burrito, has no beans or rice and biodegradable THROWAWAY flower tortilla wrapper!
Ben says
Thanks guys for another fascinating podcast, boring friends and family with paleo definitely sounds familiar.
Robb if you get time to research sunlamps effects on vitamin d and the difference between sunlamps, daylight bulbs and sunlight then you would would have 1 listener who would be fascinated by your findings.
I have psoriasis and the sun greatly reduces tcell production in the summer months, this year clearing was boosted with vit d supplementation. The benefits decrease throughout winter even when experimenting with increased vit d, sunlamps + blue light.
Can’t find much in laymans terms of how types of vitmain production e.t.c relate to this.
Happy New Year and keep the great work up!
Sot says
Happy New Paleo Year to Robb & Andy, you guys been a great source for all of us leading a healthy lifestyle. 2010 was a great year for me been getting leaner and stronger want to thank you for all you guys do and peoples feedback, it’s becoming a great community for information sharing on Paleo. Look forward to 2011 to be a bigger Paleo year. I also have a hard time with the dating scene and agree with not going into to much detail when dating.
Mark R. says
Show Topics:
Concern About Total Cholesterol 3.41
Replacement for Eggs & Nuts 8.10
Why Are Nuts Okay? 9.47
Iron Deficiency 14.48
Magnesium Citrate 17.50
Benefits / Risks of Crossfit Group Training 20.59
Back-off Weeks 36.14
T.S. Wiley? 41.22
Tea Oil 45.31
Thoughts on Using Only Fish As Protein Source 48.30
Sunlamps / Alcohol / Dating 50.09/51.18/52.24
Thoughts on Crossfit Following Significant Weight Loss 54.43
Sorry for the delay, holidays.
Chava says
Hi! I heard you mention that soaking/fermenting grains
reduces the lectin content. Since I learned from the whole Paleo
movement from the whole Weston Price movement, I really do wonder
why grains are still shunned even after being soaked and fermented.
For what it’s worth, I really don’t eat grains, rice once in a
while, and I stay away from gluten, but I would really like to
understand this. Thanks!
Robb Wolf says
Because it only reduces the content, it’s still a gamble.
Anthony P. says
Hey, guys! Great stuff you guys do here…. Thanks so much!
Just a note on Natural Calm… I used to take the stuff religiously until I saw that ConsumerLab.com, an independent supplement testing and evaluation company (http://www.consumerlab.com/aboutcl.asp), reported an unacceptable quantity of lead in a test sample… Apparently Gillham’s own tests contradicted the findings, and so ConsumerLab quickly gave this retort:
Update:
Peter Gillham’s Natural Vitality — Natural Calm: (7/22/09) ConsumerLab.com learned that this company distributed a report (dated July 8, 2009) indicating that tests conducted by contract laboratories on its behalf showed amounts of lead beneath the State of California’s limit, in contrast to CL’s finding of 0.84 mcg of lead per daily 3 teaspoon serving.
CL notes that the report 1) does not include lot numbers of the tested products, suggesting that the results are likely based on product manufactured at a different time and possibly after CL’s report was published and 2) uses a smaller amount of product per teaspoon (only 1.5 grams versus the 1.84 g measured by CL), reducing the calculated amount of lead per daily serving in the company’s report by nearly 20%, or by more than 1 gram of product in the suggested maximum daily serving of 3 teaspoons, and 3) does not provide testing methods, which could have been inadequate to fully detect the lead in the product. The report in no way refutes CL’s findings, which were confirmed in two separate laboratories prior to publication.
CL has also been informed that this company told retailers that CL refused to furnish it with the lot number of the tested product. This is false. This and additional test information was provided immediately upon request on May 21, 2009. (CL also noted that the lot number was poorly imprinted.)
Peter Gillham’s has not expressed interest in CL’s direct offer to provide retained sample of the tested product to a third-party laboratory for re-analysis.
Robb Wolf says
Anthony-
I think that story has been shot down…I’ll look through the archives.
Anthony P. says
Cool – thanks, Robb… Because I’d love to start using it again!
On a related note, what’s your take on ConsumerLab? I’ve been a subscriber for a while now, and have used their reports at times to make brand decisions… They seem trustworthy, although you never know who or what is lurking behind the scenes….
Anthony P. says
Find anything out, Rob? I haven’t found anything but references to ConsumerLab’s test…. Sorry to be a pest, but I really liked that stuff. NSI (the house brand of Vitacost.com) sells one like it, but I’m not sure if it’s in the special form as Gillham’s:
http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Magnesium-Citrate-with-Potassium-Lemon/?cas=1