by Amy Kubal | 32 comments
Amy Kubal is a Registered "Paleo" Dietitian and the ring leader of Robb's RD consulting team. She works with a wide range of clients from competitive athletes to those dealing with complex health problems. Check out her bio and consulting options, and her blog Fuel As Rx to get your Paleo nutrition fix.
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eema.gray says
I listened to a facinating hour on PRI yesterday about school lunches. One member of the roundtable discussion pointed out that the school lunch program has to meet the general needs of a huge population. If your child is different (observes halel, kosher, food allergies, paleo, raw vegan, intense athlete, etc etc and so forth) DO NOT expect the school to provide adequate meals. Pack their lunches. It is impossible for schools to micromanage lunch to meet the needs of every individual.
Amy Kubal says
Great point – the school lunch program does need to evolve and change, but ultimately we can’t expect the system to be a ‘perfect fit’ for everyone.
Kelsey Marksteiner, RD says
Great article, Amy. I was lucky to grow up in a town where we had a wonderful chef (at a public school, no less!) who made great meals. Sadly, this is definitely not the case for most schools.
I think another part of this is getting nutrition education into schools. Of course there will be a lot of misinformation about nutrition, but I think for the most part kids would learn that eating whole foods is good.
I created a nutrition education program for 2nd and 3rd graders that I taught last year (and will hopefully teach again this year – waiting on grant money at the moment) and it was WONDERFUL. The kids loved it, and I focused a lot of the science of digestion – which the kids absolutely loved. They got to learn about how their body takes food and breaks it down in the different body parts. They got to draw stories about it, and learn different hand movements for each of the steps the food takes in the body (i.e. making waves with their hands to learn about peristalsis). Really a great experience. I used a MyPlate-esque technique, but instead of having there be a “Grains” item, instead it was “Starch”. I even had a couple kids who were gluten-free so we talked about that as well!
Kids are SMART and they want to learn about this stuff. It’s just a matter of providing smart nutrition education! Once kids learn about healthy food (and they learn how to make it as well), they are SO much more likely to want to eat it.
…so that turned into a very long comment! But awesome job, Amy! The foodservice world is tough so kudos to you. And thanks for a wonderful article.
Amy Kubal says
Thanks Kelsey! And you are so right! Education is a HUGE piece. When all the kids know is McDonalds and frozen pizza it’s going to be hard to convince them to try squash and broccoli. They need to hear the message and see it in action!! 🙂
Sara says
This is a PHENOMENAL idea! I totally agree that most kids are sponges and like to absorb as much information as possible… especially at that age. I wish you the best of luck with your program!
MJD says
Since giving up bread, we’ve started making sweet potato pancakes (from Practical Paleo) and using them as a substitute for bread in almond butter and jelly sandwiches. We have Larabars and Trader Joe’s no sugar added fruit strips for some days, but some days they get cut up apples, some pecans and/or almonds, one of my daughters likes spinach in her lunch and the other likes bell pepper. Before we started sending spinach, we almost fell out of our chairs one night at dinner when our oldest said, “Mom, why don’t you ever pack me spinach for lunch?” So, this year we sat down together and talked about lunch ideas that they would like. It helps us pack stuff that they will eat and helps them understand why we won’t pack some things.
Every now and then they get the school lunch when we don’t plan ahead enough to make their lunches.
Amy Kubal says
These are great ideas and nice job setting an example!
Karen says
Both my boys, age 8 and 11, packed in a paleo lunch and have been all this school year. Today it was turkey/salami rollups (they like the toothpick). Organic strawberries, grapes, baby carrots and US Wellness beef jerky. Fruit goes over better with them (and is better cold) so I tend to let that go to school. At home we have the sweet potatoes, the kale, the broccoli, cauliflower, squash…
Amy Kubal says
That’s AWESOME and a perfect example of it starting at home! Way to take control!! 🙂
Karen says
And after school today, my oldest told me his friends were all jealous of his packed lunch. Apparently, the school’s hamburgers today were particularly “gross”.
NJ Paleo says
Thank you for this article — it was well-thought out and well-written, and it brought to light some points that I had not thought about with regard to school lunches.
I pack my kids’ lunches (my kids are 10 and 12), and we talk about why they are taking meats in a thermos and fruits & vegetables to school for lunch. I did get a comment from my daughter about how her friend (who is a gymnast who trains 5 days a week) “gets” to bring a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, chocolate chip cookies, and a fruit rollup every day for lunch. I asked her who packed the lunch, and she said her friend’s mom. I said, well, that explains it as her mom is very overweight! But I was surprised that a girl who is an athlete is being “fueled” this way by her mother who is an elementary school teacher and should know better…..apparently not? It did give me another good opportunity to talk with my kids about what is proper fuel for a growing and athletic body. Nutritional education really does begin at home, for better or for worse.
Kim Argel says
I’m so PO’d by the Post from NJ Paleo …because I would hope that we’re not teaching our daughters to say, “that explains it as her mom is very overweight(basically called her FAT)!” We’re on these blogs because we’re all trying to learn to eat better…not judge those who haven’t! Besides, you never know for sure what your kids are/aren’t eating at school. My daughter trades her paleo lunch items all the time. I just let it go for the most part and know that she has a really good Paleo breakfast and dinner at home and hope that I’ve taught her well enough to make the right choices for her body during the times when she’s not with me. I definitely do not want her to think she’ll be “overweight” if she doesn’t pack a good paleo lunch everyday. Girls have enough to worry about…
Amy Kubal says
Very good point. Teaching our children to be ‘healthy’ should be the focus of our message – not focusing on the ‘this will make you fat’ mentality, but instead on the ‘this isn’t as nutritious as…”.
Janknitz says
We pack healthy lunches for our daughters at home, but my daughter recently shared with me why a lot of kids at her school don’t eat the nice shiny red apples that are handed out with school lunches. Most of them at this age have orthodontia so they CAN’t eat whole apples, celery, etc.
Sometimes, it just takes some logical thinking to see where the problem may lie.
Joshua says
I was talking with a friend who works in elementary school education and they were told yesterday that the elementary school students would be limited to no more than 2 oz of “protein” per day. This in a rural district with very poor students who sometimes only eat what they get at school. I just don’t like the idea of somebody 1000 miles away regulating what little kids are eating. I appreciate the fact that they’re trying to reduce obesity, but I’m not convinced that those regulators have any idea what causes obesity.
Amy Kubal says
There is definitely room for improvement, for sure.
Lpjohnson says
My boys take homemade soup or casseroles in their thermoses everyday. Meat, bone broth, lots of veggies, sometimes with potato or rice or fat egg noodles. I make a big pot of soup on my days off, then freeze in thermos-size portions to be reheated before school. If you do cheese, there are lots of great recipes for pizza crust out of cauliflower, cheese, & egg. My boys eat this up plain, as pizza, as crackers, or bread. Yesterday, my kindergartener asked for cabbage & sausage.
Gabby says
Many dietitians really do not get at the root of obesity. Still stuck in calories in and calories oot.
Cutting back protein has to be driven by budget strictures.
Getting children to eat what is good for them absolutely has its roots in how they are “conditioned ” at home. “Top down ” eating regulations pushed from a school lunch room?? Good luck.
Thanks for writing this piece.
mister worms says
I’m thankful that packing a lunch for my pre-K kid is an option. I try to provide a variety of little things and hopefully she’ll find something she likes. Today was plain whole milk yogurt, chicken sausage, sweet potatoes and a mini gouda cheese. Other things we pack: dinner leftovers in a thermos, sliced chicken/turkey, eggy coconut flour pancakes and various fruits & veggies cut to bite sizes.
At our school, the lunches are passable. Yes, they have grains but I’d rather see a brown rice and bean meal plus veggie than pre-packaged convenience/fast food crap with an ingredient list that’s a mile long. Still, there are pizza days, chocolate milk (skim of course!) and snacks like crackers and pretzels which are rather junky, imo. But I’m glad for progress like no juice or soda, no fries, no vending machines full of candy bars and pop-tarts, etc.
Nikki Hughes says
Haha! Our directional cheat was Never Eat Shredded Wheat!!! So funny and still appropriate 😉
Caroline says
I enjoyed your article Amy. I drove on a 3rd grade field trip last week. 2 of the kids in my car get the “free” lunch program. For the first time I got to see what was in them. . . peanut butter and grape jelly UNCRUSTABLES, chocolate milk, and a baggy of raw vegetables (mini carrots, cherry tomatoes, and broccoli). I was happy to see the vegs! But, as you mentioned, what good are they if the kids don’t eat them? I watched 1 of the kids toss the whole baggy straight into the garbage, and the other the same, after eating 1 baby carrot. It’s such a multi-faceted problem. I suspect those kids aren’t expected to eat raw vegs at home perhaps. . or the flavor doesn’t stack up when the “vegetable” they are used to is McDs fries, or processed “fruit” snacks?
Amy Kubal says
That is a PERFECT example! So much of the stuff that’s truly healthy is thrown away! Instead of complaining about the school lunch program parents need to teach their children about making good choices and encourage schools to do the same in the classroom and lunch room!
Ryan Pearce says
“Parents and families need to take responsibility for their children’s health.”
Amen to that! So many people cannot wrap their minds around actually setting up fundamentally sound values at home; they think the school (namely, the government) needs to tell kids what to eat.
Thank you for your advice and continued sharing of knowledge Amy.
Anthony says
I am a public school teacher and the lunches are so bad the kids eat junk food instead (cookies and slushies). I usually say something to them about eating healthy but they respond with “would you eat that food?” Second of they bring lunch there is no refrigeration or microwave for them to use. As a parent I try to have my kid eat paleo but when we send him to school the teachers usually have cheeezits and oreos for them to munch on in class. How can you compete with that?
D says
I am a teacher. I have students who would eat more of the fruits and vegetables, but they are not allowed to have forks! The cafeteria serves a spinach salad that is really quite good, but the leaves are not torn up at all. Very difficult to eat with a spoon!
Amy Kubal says
No Forks??? What’s the deal with that? Teach them to use chopsticks?? Or heck, eat it with there fingers!! 🙂
jenn says
My husband and I have transitioned to a paleo/primal diet and are feeling much better. My teens, especially my daughter – a sophmore – has been very resistant. It is also difficult when the “health” lessons at school constantly emphasize low fat/whole grain approach and she chooses to believe her teachers over her “counter culture nutrition advice” Mom. Any advice would be appreciated! I’ve shown her some of the articles about the science behind everything but she’s really resistant to surrendering her cookies and ice cream.
Sara says
LOVE this post.
When I first met my husband, his kiddos were used to living the bachelor life with him – eating convenience foods pretty much all day, every day. Bananas were the only fruit in the house. Chicken nuggets and fries were the norm.
The first time I cooked for them, his youngest (then 5) proclaimed that the chicken took “too long to chew.” (This was no dried out piece of meat – it was a beautifully roasted chicken breast.) Compared to chicken nuggets (which are basically chewed for you in advance) and french fries, it was hard work eating real food!
That little guy’s learned a lot in the last two plus years. He’s come SO FAR. Now, he loves veggies, fruits, various meats. He just asked for seconds on a chicken and veggie curry I made last night! And when commercials come on TV advertising Tru Moo or McDonald’s, etc, he reminds his brothers, “They’re just trying to get you to buy their food – it’s all junk food and will make you sick!”
I didn’t force him to eat anything. I didn’t push. I just serve healthy meals each day and make them healthy lunches. They still buy school lunch on occasion, but they know how much better they feel when they eat right and often pick fresh fruit/veggies for sides and reach for the plain milk to drink instead of chocolate or strawberry.
It doesn’t happen overnight, but if you work with your kids, you can sincerely change (and save!) their lives.