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Topics:
- [4:42] Switching Around Your Diet (Diet Confusion)
- [10:47] Sumo Deadlift High Pull
- [22:57] Icing For Inflammation, and Foot/Knee Positioning For Olympic Lifters
- [37:02] Cataracts
- [41:27] HIV
- [45:37] The Dietary Composition And Energy Expenditure Study in JAMA
- [51:28] Baby Not Fat Enough
- [56:14] Speeding up Keto Adaptation
- [58:22] Ideal Ratios Of Fat Intake
Questions:
1. Diet Confusion
Justin says:
Hey Robb and Greg,
First off, I want to thank you for the plethora of knowledge that you drop on us every week. I only recently discovered the Paleo Solution podcast, but have quickly gone through the last 50 episodes. Suffice to say, you have blown my mind with all of the information you provide. And you’re blowing my friends’ minds, who all now listen too. There hasn’t been this much blowing since [insert inappropriate joke here].
Anyway, my question has to do with Diet Confusion, as I call it for lack of a better term – a la muscle confusion, I’m wondering if the body adapts to one way of eating, and needs a change from time to time.
Case in point: I tend to get on food ‘kicks,’ where I get into 2-3 Paleo ingredients and have them all the time. Right now, I really enjoy tuna and pistachios (don’t ask me how that came to be), and tend to include them with most of my meals. My previous hankering was for peanut butter and bananas, which lasted through most of the summer. Don’t worry, I have a variety of veggies and low glycemic carbs – I’m not just living off of fish and nuts 🙂
With most of my ‘kicks,’ I initially find great results as I switch up my diet – my energy shoots up both in and out of the gym, and I achieve nice strength gains while dropping 0.5% or so of body fat.
After several weeks of a new diet, however, these gains really plateau. I hit a wall where I my energy drops, and my body fat ticks up.
What gives here? Could it be that the body adapts to a new diet, much like it would a new workout routine? Or is this the most ridiculous concept since The ThighMaster? Even if I don’t make the podcast, I’d love to hear your thoughts on varying one’s diet every so often.
Keep up the awesome work!
2. Sumo dead lift high pull and application
Stephanie says:
Hi!
I don’t have any formal weight training experience, just anecdotal, my own trial and error and reading articles and books on various styles of weightlifting, etc. Â I am writing to you Robb Wolf and Greg Everett to help me out on something I am trying to understand. The Sumo Deadlift High pull is being taught at the gym i go to. It is being taught as a quick movement, powerful like an olympic lift. I find this confusing because, the high pull portion seems to cause so much stress on shoulder, wrist and elbow flexion (thinking impingment of shoulder) I cannot think of any reason I would want to perform that movement dynamically. Â Is there any reason for performing a Sumo deadlift high pull quickly? Granted i have used high pulls with wide to narrow grip training as a competitive bb and also used sumo deadlift but not together and dynamically.
Thank you for your time and hopefully another tool i can put into my workout box.
3. Greg Everett Vs. Kelly Starrett
Peter says:
I no bad grammar make Greg mad, so I try to be OK.
The article Greg wrote on feet forward vs feet pointed out during the squat was very interesting. While watching the olympics I’ve noticed that the athletes performing the clean and jerk point their feet forward during the first pull (deadlift), and feet out during the front squat; though I’ve also noticed most of their knees go valgus. (because they’re lifting too much weight?) Could you expand on what you said about the knee rotating, and stretching non-stretchable soft tissue?
On the topic of Kelly Starrett, he recently posted a video talking about reducing inflammation with icing to be not such a good idea. Did you watch this and what is your take on it?
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UmJVgEWZu4&feature=g-user-u
Also what’s up with Robb’s eyebrows? In most interview videos I’ve watched he has this ability to always talk with one eyebrow raised. Thought I’d just mention it so he would get super conscious of it now :P. Good job in spearing that beast in Icaveman btw.
4. Paleo and cataracts
David says:
I’m 74 and with moderate cataracts – surgery planned. Â Since I was 27 I’ve eaten mostly what I’d call “natural foods” – that is, lots of veggies, fruit, and loads of whole grains but with plenty of meat – lots of southern fried chicken. Â Until recently my BP was 120/80 although it is sometimes higher now. Â I’ve had fairly high cholesterol for years but refused meds thinking I could deal with it via nutrition and exercise. Â Other than that, and the cataracts, I am, as far as I know healthy – no aches, pains or limitations. Â So my question is: Â While I understand that if I had eaten Paleo all along I might not have developed cataracts can eating paleo now do anything to reverse the cataracts? Â Thanks.
5. HIV and the Paleo diet
Melanie says:
One of my children has recently found out that she is HIV positive (we are still waiting on the Western Blot test to make sure she did not get a false positive) but I am wondering if there have been any indications that going Paleo would help to prolong her time without meds. Â Any information would be appreciated as I am not an advocate for Western medicine and the longer she can stay off the meds the better in my opinion.
6. Just to get someone fired up… namely Robb – Also, (brown-nosing) great talk at AHS12
Kate says:
Dear Robb and Greg,
Hello! I’ve listened to almost every single podcast and I’m a huge fan. Â I want to say something sassy and clever, but right now I’m like one of those middle-schoolers overthinking the “coolest” lines in my head so I’m just going to skip it
I just saw this in the New York Times and felt a little bit of rage, however, as I am not an expert, I wanted to throw it out to you two for analysis. Â It is Dr. Jules Hirsh shooting down the recent JAMA study showing people on a high-fat diet burning more calories than they consumed. Â In the interview, he also references a similar study he did where they measured . Â I was wondering – what do you think of his analysis of the study/what do the different results of the two studies say? Â Additionally, could Dr. Hirsch have been right about the difficulty in measuring energy output? Â He seems to blame calorie differences on lost water weight, but here I’m confused. Â If a calorie is a calorie is a calorie, why isn’t a pound a pound (a pound)?
Here is the link to the NY Times interview:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/nutrition/q-and-a-are-high-protein-low-carb-diets-effective.html?_r=1&ref=nutrition
Here is a link to what (I believe) may be the study Dr. Hirsch refers to in the interview:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18842775
A little background: I just saw Gary Taubes speak at AHS12 and I believe he references the same JAMA study, but obviously he had a different interpretation.
7. 7 month old not fat enough
Tim, Kristen, and Zoey say:
Robb,
I have been an avid listener of yours for a while now and have been eating paleo for about 2 years. Â My wife, reluctant at first, started eating paleo-ish while she was pregnant and post pregnancy went full paleo and is now 100% paleo now that she sees and feels the effects! Â Our problem now is that our 7 month old isn’t gaining enough weight to please the pediatricians. Â She was exclusively breastfed for the first 6 months and now eats real solid foods (peas, carrots, sweet potatoes, chicken, pears, apples and avocado). Â We keep upping her solid food content but her metabolism is crazy high and she seems to burn off everything that she eats. Â The pediatrician now is strongly urging us to give her formula a few times a day and add some grain snacks and infant cereal. Â I don’t have a realistic option to go to a new doctor because I am in the military and our health care options are limited. Â She is hitting all of her developmental markers and everything else is great, they just want to plump her up. Â A friend of ours has twins that were born at the same weight as our daughter and was the same weight at 3 months. Â They started them on formula and they ballooned up (literally) and the look swollen and frankly unhealthy. Â Should we be worried about the low weight if she is hitting all of her cognitive and developmental markers and is otherwise healthy? Â Are there any other healthy foods we can add to give her more food that will help her grow? Â I know you usually deal with 24 year old dudes that want to bulk up not 7-month olds, but maybe now that you have a new addition to the wolf-pack then you can understand my frustration/confusion.
Thanks
8. Speed up keto adaption
Ben says:
Hey Robb how’s a goin?
First off, I bought your book and liked it. Definitely the best ‘paleo’ book I’ve bought so far.
So yeah, I work in a warehouse and eat a super unhealthy diet to get through the day (ENORMOUS amount of carbs). Every time I try to go keto while working, I always can’t get keto adapted fast enough, and my quota plummets and I get in trouble. Phinney and Volek seem to think it can’t be done in less than 2 weeks, but I’m not sold on that.
Basically, so far this is what I think would yield the fastest keto adaption time:
1)After eating coco oil, go on a 48 hour fast.
2) Begin eating a healthy keto diet heavy in coconut oil.
Would walking be detrimental or beneficial? I can’t figure out what this study means:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6353933
Thanks for any help you can provide!
9. Macronutrient ratios for Fats
Nikki says:
Dear Rob and Greg,
Love your show and look forward to tuesday, listening to you all the way from London, England. Â It’s become particularly funny recently for me to hear Rob references his family (my daughter is called “zoe” and I’m Nikki too).
Okay, I am really hoping you guys can help me out here as I have been searching for the last piece of the Paleo puzzle.  I understand that PUFAs are not good, but no where can I find a recommended amount of saturated, fat, monostaurated fat and polyunsaturated fats one should have daily. I’ve been Paleo for 5 months now and I am (still) confused about the macro nutirnent ratios of fats.  As a former researcher for the BBC, you’d think I’d be able to track down this information, but alas, I have not.  I use FitnessPal to keep track of what I eat and use their custom settings for my carbs (10%) protein (20%) and fats (70%). Last week I heard the Australian  writer David Guillespe (Fear of Fat) say one should’t have more than 6g of PUFAs so I’ve got that value now.
Please can you tell me  how much of the other 2 fats I should aim for.  I am 5′ 8″  133 lbs (60kg) and 11.2 % body fat.  I do 3 strength sessions a week.
Cheers (as the Brits say)
saulj says
#3 – Overall, I liked how Greg dealt with this issue. Our community is not served by bickering and building false dichotomies. As the S&C community grows larger through CrossFit and other organizations, we have a choice about how we want to be perceived. You guys have fun, but you also model professionalism and leadership, especially in the last few episodes.
Tony says
Robb,
Your comment about blood pressure and anything above 80 for diastolic makes you nervous. Quick question concerning blood pressure and how it relates to your health. When I test my blood pressure, I tend to give pretty varied/inconsistent readings. I am a pretty healthy guy; eating mostly clean paleo, no added salt at all, and pretty athletic. Every other health paramter seems to test great: cholesterol, blood glucose, triglycerides, etc. My blood pressure is the one thing that tends to be a little goofy. I am a flight instructor and have to take a medical examination every year. Last year I took my examination in the afternoon and got a 115/70 or so. It was a good one. This year I got 130/80 I think. I did consume a pretty decent amount of coffee during my drive to my exam. In addition to the coffee (black – no sugar, cream, or milk), I tend to psyche myself out for these tests. I know I tend to give weird readings and start thinking about it. I swear I can feel my blood pressure rise just by putting the idea in my mind that I need to get a low reading. So what are the mechanisms for blood pressure? What are my real concerns regarding blood pressure? If EVERY other health paramter tests ideal, is this blood pressure somewhat of a moot point? Let me know what you think. Thanks for any feedback.
Tony
Sara says
Re: HIV and Paleo… thank you for advocating common sense! I think holistic medicine is (or can be) an important component of a treatment plan, but it always makes me cringe to hear people espouse modern medicine right off the bat because it’s modern medicine.
(Also, I wonder how much fat the 7-month-old is getting… I don’t really know anything about feeding babies, but I suspect that fat is a super important component of an infant’s diet on account of their growing brains. Real food for kids is awesome, but I don’t really buy the idea that kids and adults need the same macros–and same menu–for optimal health. Just my 2-cents.)
Jonathan Morgan says
RE: High BP/Hypertension etc
Robb and Gregg,
I love the podcast but don’t expect me to get on my knees like the rest of these suckers do (I’m not an NFL replacement ref… they’ve been blowing enough for us all).
I’m 27 and have been relatively inactive since college. About 6 months ago (after some concerning HDL/LDL levels, BP readings, and looking like a slob), I started getting my shit together. I stumbled onto CF and then the Paleo solution. N=1 and the results have been great. I’ve leaned out by losing about 25 lbs and my HDL/LDL triglycerides all look much better… Which leaves me with my problem. I drafted awful parents in the first round and my BP readings have consistently been staying high. Every doctor I see says I simply have “bad” genes and that I need to be on medication until I die.
So my question is: what other “paleo/exercise tinkering” could I explore to stabilize my BP before caving in to medication? Also, is it worth getting additional tests done to ensure the BP isn’t an indicator/cause of other problems on my heart? (If so, what tests?) Also, to Gregg are certain exercise activities better than others to correct this? When is my heart going to explode? I’m terrified of being forever branded as having “Hypertension” and the implications on life/medical insurance coverage.
I’m 6’2″ 195 lbs, awful family history on this stuff (dad, 2 out of 4 grandparents etc). I currently run anywhere from 135/80 to 160/90 depending on time of day, rest, diet etc. I do not watch my sodium intake very closely. I am probably addicted to coffee but will switch to decaf it if it means better results/readings. My exercise routine is typically CF 3-4 days a week. Oh and I’m a financial analyst so I am probably more stressed than the average joe. Thoughts?
Carlos says
I got really interested at the #2 when Robb went into the thing on form. You stated that you really didn’t care about the full extension( on box jumps) as long as the main goal of the exercise was getting executed( or at least this is what I got from it). As a budding coach this topic really interests me. I guess my time in Crossfit has brain washed me in the fact that full ROM is the end all be all, but I cannot see how a quarter squat is more beneficial then a deep squat. Is this because strength is not being built in the same way it is when training for the Oly lifts? In other words is the quarter squat training a certain position for the certain sport the athlete is competing in, and will this be more beneficial to the athlete then the ass to grass squat?
With the part about Glen, did you not care he was going to opening up fully on the power cleans because you were more worried about the output being generated?
I guess the question I am trying to ask is how you judge when a movement pattern should be done to the strictest form and when the overall workout is more important.
Greg Everett says
Consider the purpose of an exercise when deciding what constitutes proper execution. The purpose of a box jump is to train explosive hip, knee and ankle etx extension. If you start on the floor, bend and then extend those joints powerfully to propel yourself up and onto a box, that task has been completed effectively. Standing up on top of the box contributes nothing to that. And this is actually one case in which I think this habit actually has a counterproductive effect – because the focus is on “full ROM” rather than jumping, the athlete will often extend fully on the box by jumping back down and ankle-hopping back up (incidentally this is also a great Achilles rupture risk in improperly prepared athletes and inappropriately high-volume training).
This is completely unrelated to the squat and quarter squat, although there may in fact be times when a quarter squat is appropriate (as a supplement to, not a substitute for, a full depth squat).
Again, with a power clean, the purpose is developing explosiveness in the lower body (and a couple other things). This occurs as the athlete extends the knees and hips, not as he stands up from his receiving position. That last piece not only contributes nothing to the real purpose of the exercise, but extremely little to its conditioning demand if using it in a conditioning type workout anyway.
Jennifer Higgins says
I agree about the metrics the ped is looking at, but when you read the list of foods the baby is eating it is NOT COMPLETE. To go from breastmilk, a very high fat food, to chicken and fruits and veggies with avocado is NOT a wise transition. That is a middle-age woman diet. Try some real old school weaning foods: bone marrow, gelatin/fat-rich soup, egg yolks, organ meat. Then you can be confident the baby is getting everything it needs.
Julie says
I think you guys need to re-read question #1. He clearly said “Don’t worry, I have a variety of veggies and low glycemic carbs – I’m not just living off of fish and nuts” which is the opposite of how you answered the question.
Rubiolio says
Love the podcast but every now and then you say dumb things. Like a ketogenic diet
will keep cataracts from recurring after surgery. Cataracts can’t recur in any case, the lens is replaced with a plastic one.
Bubbles says
My understanding is that cataracts are caused by glycation. Advanced Glycation End-products (AGEs) and all that.
This, to me, would make sense in a blood sugar / carb sense. People with diabetes in particular are more prone to cataracts.
Eating paleo should keep them from progressing. No idea if it could reverse it.
Some people say it can be controlled or even reversed by carnosine eye drops / NAC.
http://jacoblee069.hubpages.com/hub/Cataracts-and-Glycation
No experience with it, myself.
Jim Owen says
Love all your work and you keep me learning and thinking. On your last podcast you talked about cataracts and since I am an optometrist I wanted to comment.
Yes, there development is an oxidative process and a life of Paleo would likely slow their development but nothing to date has shown where that can be reversed to a level that would make a difference to a patient. Where Paleo could help the emailer is in the recovery from surgery Cystoid macular edema is a complication of surgery, which is basically inflammation of the macula. Go figure it is much more common in diabetics! While I have never seen a specific study it is not that crazy to say and anti inflamatory diet might reduce the risk of CME. I hope that is useful
Thanks for all you do. Please let me know if I can ever help
Jim
Kris says
Your podcast tends to be male-centered so imagine my glee when Robb got up in arms over the WHO / breastfeeding issue! In addition to what Jennifer said above, I would add that mama – who I presume is still BFing – should also make sure her own diet is full of quality fats. A lot of postpartum moms fear fats because they’re trying to lean up, but the body needs to retain a level of fat in order to produce milk. Chris Kresser’s Healthy Baby Code is one resource, and I echo his recommendation of the cod liver / butter oil supplements. Beyond that, coconut milk / cream, avocados, and good unhydrogenated lards can ensure that baby is getting what she needs.
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