Episode 189

Performance Menu: Journal of Health & Athletic Excellence

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  1. [8:06] Ketosis When Waking
  2. [12:36] The Reversibility Of Ketosis
  3. [19:30] Provigil (Modafinil)
  4. [26:00] ADHD Medication And Exercise Intensity
  5. [33:24] Gluten Cutter
  6. [36:57] Physiological Reasons For Lifestyle And Occupation Types



1. In Ketosis when we wake up? Really?

Michael says:
Dear Messers Wolf and Everett,

I’m English and so far to reserved and up my own ass to tell you what a great podcast you do. Its not bad I guess :p. I had a question about going into ketosis as we sleep. I read someone say that we wake up in a ketogenic state and this is only broken by us having a carb-rich meal. I am a rower and have indeed noticed that I am perfectly happy to do steady state work in the morning on an empty stomach but for any of the HIIT I just cannot summon the speed unless I have a meal beforehand. Is this because I am in ketosis when I wake up? I thought that it took many weeks of VLC living to get keto-adapted? I eat high-carb paleo + dairy and occasional legumes. Just wondered what your thoughts were and whether, if I need to do high intesity stuff in the morning I need to have a high carb meal the night before? Cheers


2. How reversible is Ketosis?

Dan says:
Hello Robb and Greg,

I would like to start by kissing your butts and telling you how wonderful the content is. I drive an hour to and from work each day and it makes my drive rather enjoyable.

Here is my question

I am researching the ketogenic diet and have read both the Art and Science of Low Carb Living and Low Carb Performance by Dr. Volek and Dr. Phinney. It is pretty clear that the only way to create a keto-adapted state is to be uber strict on all forms of carbohydrate, eat moderate amounts of protein, and a boat load of fat. I also understand that the transition will take 2-3 weeks to fully adapt and another realistic 4-6 weeks to optimize efficiency and see legit changes in body comp and performance.

My question is, once the ketogenic state is established does it take just as much diligence to reverse the effects? Does the body revert back to a glucose dependent metabolic state quicker than a ketogenic? Am I doomed to never eat a sweet potato or serving of fruit larger than 1/2 cup per day for the rest of my life if I want to remain sexy? Sarcasm aside, my goals are pure ascetic, and I don’t want to flush 2 months worth of work down the toilet because I ate a sweet potato after a hard crossfit workout

I am 5’8″, 176lbs 15% body fat with a goal of 9% body fat. I follow strict auto-immune paleo protocols with no cheating. I preform 2 crossfit workouts a week at my local “box”, 1 standard strength session a week at my health club, and I alternate those days with 30 minutes of steady state cardio at a Zone 2 Intensity (confirmed through metabolic testing) and mobility stuff via Kelly Staret. Thank you for your time!


3. Provigil

Rupert says:
Hey Rob, love the podcasts, if only you and Greg were in England to change the attitudes of the obese and ignorant we have here!

My question is about the drug Provigil and specifically use in people who don’t suffer from narcolepsy. I’ve heard that it is used in the military (that could be false) and was wanting your views on the substance and any potential positives and negatives!

Keep up the good work guys!


4. ADHD meds and exercise intensity

ADDled says:
Hi guys, big fan of the podcast here.  I have been struggling recently with some training issues that I havfe found to be problematic. I was diagnosed with ADD when I was a kid, and since then, I’ve been off and on CNS stimulant meds throughout most of my adulthood. Recently, because of the demands of my new job, I decided to go back on Adderall after five years med free. During my drug hiatus, I took up crossfit, olympic lifting, and running and have seen tremendous gains in athleticism. Basically, i am 38 now and could kick my 22-year old’s ass.

However, since I have been back on Adderall, I’ve noticed that I can’t really push the redline as much as i used to be able to. Maybe its me just getting older, but I feel like I don’t quite have the fire that i did even 6 months ago.  I don’t want to stop taking  adderall because my productivity has significantly improved, but I also want to maintain my intensity of my past workouts. Plus, i am more prone to feeling nauseous during my workouts than I have been since I’ve begun. I have tried to take a reduced dose on days that i work out (and only in the morning), but that doesn’t seem to work. This week, I am also trying to go drug free to see if there is a difference, but now i am writing you a podcast question instead of working.

Do you have any suggestions regarding this issue from a training perspective? I know that you need to drink alot of water and to remember to eat (which i do), but do CNS stimulants adversely affect testosterone, and if so, are there potential supplemental correctives? or do i just sacrifice intensity for piece of mind at work?



5. Gluten Cutter ad in Women’s World this week

Carol says:
Hi Rob
I was wondering if you can comment in your blog on this new product I am seeing a full page ad for in this week’s Women’s World weekly (June 10)? It sounds dangerous to me, not sure how it works. Are they saying they can cure celiac/gluten sensitivity? Cheers


6. Sprinter or Long Slow Distance?

Thischris says:
Hi Robb and Greg:

Thanks for tackling my question, which is of dubious relevance.

Much has been said of the duality of certain exercise types and phenotypes: fast twitch muscle fiber vs slow twitch, HIIT vs LSD, etc. I wonder if you guys think this may apply to our lifestyle/occupation types as well?

I mean, are some of us better suited to professions that are “fast twitch/HIIT”, i.e. professions in which there are explosive periods of activity punctuated by rather long periods of downtime? For example:  ER doctor, consultants who are on the road for a while and then back home, soldiers, waitstaff, etc.

Or, are some of us suited to the long slow grind of retail (shudder), teaching, research, etc.? Jobs in which the schedule is fixed, the hours predictable and the tasks ones more of endurance and longevity. You know, like marriage.(?!)

Of course, some of us are suited personality-wise to one or the other, but have you ever thought that there may be a physiological reason why some are drawn to one side of the spectrum or the other? I would just like to hear you and Greg pontificate. Or rather, Robb pontificate and Greg dismiss it as a stupid question (smiley face). Thanks, fellas.

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  1. Martin says

    Re: Ketosis in the morning

    It turns out that the ketone levels (b-hydroxybutyrate) are in fact lower in the morning than in the afternoon. That’s what I found when I was doing daily blood tests, Peter Attia reports similar results and Phinney and Volek also document it in their books.

  2. Jim says

    Re: #3 Provigil

    Folks who are interested in modafinil/Provigil might want to take a look at Nuvigil which is apparently the newer (improved?) version of Provigil. When I was looking to get a prescription for Provigil, I found that Nuvigil was WAY cheaper at my local pharmhouse. If I remember correctly, something like 3 times cheaper, so I ended up going with that one, and I get a one-month supply for $144.

  3. CS says

    Do you have any recommendations on good resources regarding the internal work you referenced on this podcast?

    Thank you for all you do,

  4. sonny says

    if you’re ever in the toronto area I can get you generic modafenil for a 98cents a pill. (with a rx of course)

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