Comments on: Ignore the Man Behind the Curtain… http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/ Intermittent Fasting, Fitness, & Paleolithic Nutrition Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:11:26 -0800 hourly 1 By: Mathieu Lalonde http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50352 Mathieu Lalonde Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:19:53 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50352 Neill, Taubes does address that question at 48:48 into the video. It appears that Ornish is citing a study of 26 patients on low carb diets. Once the study was done, the authors realized that 10 of the patients were on a higher fat diet compared to the others. The authors scanned their hearts and published the data as proof that a high fat diet is bad. Sooooo....these people were told to eat a low fat high carbohydrate diet, ended up eating more fat than the average, and somehow the fat is to blame? I just finished listening to that video and wanted to punch Ornish the whole way through. He has this "I've got a Ph.D. and Taubes doesn't so I'm going to pretend I'm more mature, neutral, and wise so I can make him look bad and he will lose all credibility" kinda thing going on. That stuff really grates on me. Neill,

Taubes does address that question at 48:48 into the video. It appears that Ornish is citing a study of 26 patients on low carb diets. Once the study was done, the authors realized that 10 of the patients were on a higher fat diet compared to the others. The authors scanned their hearts and published the data as proof that a high fat diet is bad. Sooooo….these people were told to eat a low fat high carbohydrate diet, ended up eating more fat than the average, and somehow the fat is to blame?
I just finished listening to that video and wanted to punch Ornish the whole way through. He has this “I’ve got a Ph.D. and Taubes doesn’t so I’m going to pretend I’m more mature, neutral, and wise so I can make him look bad and he will lose all credibility” kinda thing going on. That stuff really grates on me.

]]> By: Cybil Cooper http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50130 Cybil Cooper Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:53:17 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50130 Robb-I wanted to say thank you for the impact you have had on me, my husband and our family. I believe whole-heartedly in the nutrition you taught us at Montrose Cert. Feb 2009. I am leading our 2nd challenge at our gym currently and feel so fulfilled if I can get one person to start thinking about it, the sense it makes and how good they feel, look, perform, measure up (ie blood test). I'm sure it is the same for you so you can mark this family of 4 down in your feel-good column. Cybil Cooper Robb-I wanted to say thank you for the impact you have had on me, my husband and our family. I believe whole-heartedly in the nutrition you taught us at Montrose Cert. Feb 2009. I am leading our 2nd challenge at our gym currently and feel so fulfilled if I can get one person to start thinking about it, the sense it makes and how good they feel, look, perform, measure up (ie blood test). I’m sure it is the same for you so you can mark this family of 4 down in your feel-good column.
Cybil Cooper

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50006 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:13:47 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50006 Brandon- More nutrients (by a mile) and none of the gut irritation of grains and white potatoes. Damn yummy too! Brandon-
More nutrients (by a mile) and none of the gut irritation of grains and white potatoes. Damn yummy too!

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50005 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:12:23 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50005 Had this conversation last night after the Nutrition gig in Bozeman, MT. Family is the toughest to reach. I'm not sure hat you should do. Had this conversation last night after the Nutrition gig in Bozeman, MT. Family is the toughest to reach. I’m not sure hat you should do.

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50003 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:13 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50003 Michael! Legit! keep it up and be safe. Michael!
Legit! keep it up and be safe.

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50002 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:08:55 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50002 Dominic!! Good stuff! Keep us posted! Dominic!!

Good stuff! Keep us posted!

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50001 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:07:11 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50001 Greg- I do not envy your position brother! Greg-
I do not envy your position brother!

]]> By: robbwolf http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-50000 robbwolf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:41 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-50000 Ornish is so full of shit. In his "reversing heart disease" book/study he claims a (going from memory here) 2-3% reversal of atherosclerotic plaque, yet the imaging technique he uses had like a 5% error built into the instrumentation! His paper, although pushed heavily, was heavily criticized (even within the vegan-loving medical community) for dramatically raising triglycerides and other CVD risk factors. I'd like to see Dr. Davis Kick Ornish's chubby fanny:http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/ Ornish is so full of shit. In his “reversing heart disease” book/study he claims a (going from memory here) 2-3% reversal of atherosclerotic plaque, yet the imaging technique he uses had like a 5% error built into the instrumentation! His paper, although pushed heavily, was heavily criticized (even within the vegan-loving medical community) for dramatically raising triglycerides and other CVD risk factors.

I’d like to see Dr. Davis Kick Ornish’s chubby fanny:http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Neill http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-49935 Neill Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:12:23 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-49935 Correction: Taubes, not Eades. Correction: Taubes, not Eades.

]]> By: Neill http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/16/ignore-the-man-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-49934 Neill Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:11:13 +0000 http://robbwolf.com/?p=828#comment-49934 Robb, did you ever see the nutrition panel on Charlie Rose? There was one argument Dean Ornish made that Eades never rebutted. He claimed that low-carbohydrate diets have been shown only to reduce risk factors, such as triglycerides, but that the disease state itself got worse as measured by blood flow to the heart. You know I'm in your camp on diet, but I was curious if you'd ever seen the video or heard this argument and what your thoughts were. It's here, by the way: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3078688594861957257&ei=dK7aSsfbA9PglQfw_9H-DA&q=dean+ornish+charlie+rose&hl=en&client=firefox-a# Robb, did you ever see the nutrition panel on Charlie Rose? There was one argument Dean Ornish made that Eades never rebutted. He claimed that low-carbohydrate diets have been shown only to reduce risk factors, such as triglycerides, but that the disease state itself got worse as measured by blood flow to the heart. You know I’m in your camp on diet, but I was curious if you’d ever seen the video or heard this argument and what your thoughts were.

It’s here, by the way: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3078688594861957257&ei=dK7aSsfbA9PglQfw_9H-DA&q=dean+ornish+charlie+rose&hl=en&client=firefox-a#

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